0726 history deserves a thread of its own

Anything else that you have and would like to post please do. I will go thru my files and see what I have. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

This should be an interesting thread... I truly wonder if anyone will get this one right this time or repeat more of the myths and rumors that have followed and haunted this one for the past near 50 years.

Have at her Mates and good luck!

Bill

 

Gorgeous TR, and sounds like the story behind it will be intriguing, so I'm interested to hear what the history is (and why there may be disparities).

In the interim, I cleaned up the first, faded picture a bit- hope nobody feels it's over-restored. I did not have Classiche's blessing.

Thanks to the folks in the Vintage section for having the sexiest f-cars and the most interesting stories, yet again. Look forward to hearing the story (and more pictures, please!)

Cheers,
Tad
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Wonderful pictures, thank you for sharing them.

 

+1

Thank you so much for obliging my request. Proof positive I was born ~40 years late...

Cheers,
Tad

 

Don't worry about it.F Chat will make you feel you haven't really missed much. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

I've been fortunate in that I've been to a huge number of events with the vintage Ferraris, from Pebble to Cavallino to Retromobile, numerous other concours and vintage races at numerous tracks, so I've likely seen, heard, and smelled more of the old cars than most born after me will ever get to, however what I have no doubt missed is ownership... the days of $6000 TRs and $7500 GTOs is long gone, as well, likely, as the opportunity to actually drive these cars the way I'd like to*.

And yep, F Chat rocks, especially for those who can't be where the cars are. Been a subscribed member here since 2006 as I see you have as well!

Cheers,
Tad

*Note to all readers: If you were thinking about letting me drive your vintage Ferrari up until this comment, rest assured that I would never drive yours the way I'd really like to. Unless, of course, you asked me to.

 

So Branko,

What is the story of Ferrari ownership in Caracas? Were these guys oil company executives, or sons of? I think Venezuela seemed to be the South American country with the most Ferrari's but unlike Argentina or Brazil there is no history (well known to me) of race car drivers coming from there. And unlike La Carrera Panamericana in Mexico there was no famous road race that brought outsiders down to race there. Thanks for any thoughts you have.

 

Hi Yale:
It is true that in the past years, there has been hardly or not at all information about the Venezuelan automobile and racing activities but you can find some recent information at the following links:

http://www.pasionalavelocidad.com/phpBB3/
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265950&highlight=Ferraris+en+Venezuela

 

Another pic of La Trinidad in 1959...
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I still have some doubts on wether this car was the TR59 prototype as mentioned in barchetta.cc According to some other sources, the prototype was fitted with Dunlop disc brakes and had a clear hood scoop, among other updates.

 

This car was never a prototype of anything. It was simply one of two Works Team cars for the 58 Season. By the end of the Season it was deemed surplus to the needs of the Scuderia Ferrari and sold off to recoup money, end of story.

Ciao,

Bill

 

Why?

Is there something we are all missing about this car?

Isn't this the car which went to Cuba for a race, where the driver crashed, and was thrown to his death?
The car ending up in a ravine-where it remained, due to costs associated with "retieval"- for MANY years-and exposed to the elements?

It has been an urban legend-for years-that a man was able to get into CUBA in the 1980s, "paid" his way to the "remains"(really now....), cut off a data tag and a section of frame and carried them through customs "in the breast pocket of his blazer"...
clearly....this urban legend and fishing story, CAN'T be the reason you think we need to have a thread dedicated to these scurrulous rumors?
And,

What of the man who owns the car which bears the tag currently?

Like Bill says...once a TEAM car is nolonger competitive...sell it!
Prototypes ONLY ended up with "concessionaires" and, or, significant customers/ "patrons"(financially speaking) of the Factory's Racing Programme...
Only on a select few examples can I think of fellas from SA getting..."prototypes"...
Again, I have to concur with Bill's view there..

Cars usualy ended up in SA at the END of a season ...as it was cheaper to sell all of the stuff, cars, and spares for a tidy profit to a "rich" sporting gent, than it was to fly all of what was imminently to become "last years" garb... Not MY opinion, its what an "oldtimer" told me...35 years ago...

 

During the reconstruction in the late 80's. Photos are from an article in Ferrari World magazine n°14.
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So for those of us who are not familiar with this story or the possible explanation theories, can someone please summarise the options and supporting evidence? Very interesting saga!