Hi all, I took the '95 F355 out for a morning exercise yesterday and there was a nice open stretch (in the middle of nowhere) where I took her up to ~110MPH for a very short time (6K RPM) and backed her down. I slowed down to 50MPH and shifted down for a turn. The clutch pedal was pulsating like you'd feel an ABS pedal to do. After completing the turn and shifting back up, the clutch felt normal again. I didn't have any issues the rest of the drive (then again I didn't go over 80MPH after that). Would this be a possible throw-out bearing issue or ? I've taken her upwards of 110MPH (for a short time) a couple of months ago (in the middle of nowhere) and didn't have this issue. Thanks!
Certainly an interesting issue that I have never heard of here before from memory. Well, I have seen it before where the pedal pulses constantly. Have found warped flywheels and pressure plates in those cases. Etc..etc. Have never heard of only happening once though, like this. Not that I can remember anyways. I wonder if you had some crap get in there to cause it happen that one time. Again, very strange and I cant think of anything else to explain it at the moment.
Thanks for the encouraging words. Hope it is a one time thing. I'll get it checked out just in case....
I think it may be best to keep an eye on it yourself man. If you take to a mechanic to inspect- 1- They will drive it and if they do not fault it.............they will call you and tell you to come and pick it back up. 2- Or they will pull it apart and inspect. If there is no issue, then you just wasted $500-$1000. **depending on what they charge** And I dont think there is an issue. If it were constant pulsating, well of course there is something wrong. I'm not convinced. I would drive it and keep an eye on it yourself mate. I am sure if the problem arises again will be straight onto it and will have it inspected by a professional then.
I've thought about this for a bit. I am trying to picture all the parts that come into play once the pedal is pressed and there isn't a simple explanation I can think of. I suppose it I drove it and could better understand what the pulsing felt like, maybe that would help. I am coming back to a partially blocked valve or line if it is in the fluid system. Have you topped off your brake fluid? When did you change it last and did you bleed the brakes and clutch system? Mechanically, that's something else. Uneven fly wheel surface maybe but that would feel more like thumping that pulsing, I would think. I wonder if one of those finger springs is giving out on the clutch disc. Maybe it's something so simple as one of the tie-downs for the hydraulic lines is loose or missing so that the line itself vibrates. I guess I would start looking the system over for anything abnormal on a cursury exterior inspection. Let us know what you see. This is not an issue we have seen so it has to be something unique to your car and not a known failure.
You may have had a piece of clutch lining material break off the clutch disc and momentarily get caught between the disc and the pressure plate. Did the clutch feel like it was "dragging" at any point?
The clutch wasn't dragging and it sounded normal. It was a very strong pulsation of the pedal kind of like a it would try and push back on my foot. I would liken it to when you drive over bumps when on a sudden stop while the ABS is kicking in. No abnormal noises and shifted fine. To people that know the area, this was Bandy Canyon coming into the valley on the straight just before the turn near the bridge. My clutch has been squeaking the past month or so and has sound coming from the rear, but don't know how it could be related. I bought the car Last November and all fluid changes were done the previous year. I had the oil changed and fluids checked when I bought her.
Squeaking clutch is often the noise that precedes the clutch throw out bearing housing cracking and failing (I and a few others have experienced this). I am unsure if that is at all related to the pulsing you felt in the pedal, that may be the slave cylinder acting up? Sounds like you should have this looked at by an experienced technician.
I even hate to bring this up I remember seeing this years ago on old big block camaro with an alum flywheel. When she got hot under heavy use it would shutter like your describing. It was a hairline crack in the flywheel about half way through it. Lets hope not but I would check it out before it turns into something catastrophic.
I like the T/O bearing theory. I'd inspect that-costs nothing to do it yourself, and pretty idiot-proof.
I would like to DIY, but have no lift and no stoogies to assist.... I called the shop to schedue to have them do an eval. Probably drop it off tomorrow. If it is the T/O bearing, I'll go for the Hills along with the required adapter and seal.
You do not need a lift. Check out these two threads: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=296274 http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=296614 As for "no stooges" to assist - I did that job myself (the assistance I received was through FChat only), with ZERO automotive mechanical background...the "stooges" are right here on this board to assist
Thanks for the info. It looks simple enough until you see the ~post #28 rant Quote from Ernie:"See I told you guys. If it isn't one thing with this pile of crap, it's another. I should just bath it with gasoline and throw a match at it!!! When will the **** end with this m@#therf#$^*ing car. Or better yet take it to the flipping smash-up-derby at the fair. Or how about letting some good-ol-boys smash the piss out of it with a monster truck, and then lighting it on fire. " I'll leave this one to my mechanic so I don't actually administer the fury. Have an appt for Thursday.
The mechanic checked over the clutch and didn't find an issue, but thinks it may be due to clutch fluid. Moisture build-up in the fluild along with the running temps may have contributed to the issue. He is currently bleedling the clutch/brake system and seeing if the issue goes away. Thanks for all of your comments. My yearly fluid service is due in 2 months anyway so I am having the tranny fluid and engine oil done as well.
Please keep everyone posted on this, I am quite curious. I hope its nothing big. Ohhhh the drama of having a Ferrari does not end when you park it, does it?
Boy if that were the only problem... Keep us posted! Don't forget the 355 has bleeding valves at the main brake cylinder behind the firewall. People tend to forget they are there.
It appears the clutch was changed out in 2006 and the major was done in 12/2007. Since then the engine oil was changed a couple of times including when I bought it last November. The history is not clear if the clutch fluid was changed out during the previous oil services.
Looks like there was a small crack in the pressure plate on closer examination. I opted for a rebuilt pressure plate. Please let me know if this was the correct decision to go with rebuilt. They also found a crack in the vaccuum line near the blow-off valve which will be replaced with a silicon hose. This had broken before and was patched and now has to be replaced Other than that it was found that my emergency blinkers weren't working. The flashers in the car showed them on, but outside they weren't flashing. Not sure how this got missed previously.
Cool man, you should change brake fluid every 12 months to 2 yrs as brake fluid is very good at absorbing water. So have it flushed more regulary from now on. A crack in the pressure plate! My my! Have you seen it yourself? I have never heard of that one before. Do you/they have any pics of this? Would love to see it. How are they going to rebuild that if it's cracked? Ernie the Stooge had a new one made for around $120 in LA. Also what blow off valve? Good to hear they found "something", as strange as the issue seems. A cracked pressure plate caused the pedal to pulsate once? Odd eh? Would love to see pics of where the crack is if possible mate.
They are sending me a pic of the pressure plate... will post when I get it. They'll purchase a rebuilt one... if they can find one. Don't think they can rebuild a cracked one.
Ah, fair enough. Lol, that sounds more like it! I think they are deaming just quietly. I didn't realise there was a noise there mate? You didn't mention that before did you? And it has a different feel from normal also??