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  1. 575

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    #51 575, Aug 21, 2011
    Maybe you can attach a sliding hammer to yank it out.
     
  2. fatbillybob

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    #52 fatbillybob, Aug 21, 2011
    Tcouple tip...you got lots to work with there. Follow Dave's advice...patience and it will come out. Worst case Tack weld bolt on there to give you more to grab and wiggle. Pushing in a little might free it and then twisting out some then turn in and pull out and work that sucker.
     
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    #53 moorfan, Aug 22, 2011
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    Well friends, I am headed to vacation for a few days, so I spent today buttoning up a few things for while I'm gone.

    Cam covers removed and entire manifold plus cam covers to the powdercoater (photo 1)
    Cams and tappets look fantastic with no sludge or anything else in there. Just good old clean oil! I was surprised to see black silicone sealant around the front and back circular covers and around the cam seals. I assume this is standard practice *in addition* to the actual gaskets? :)

    By the way, thanks for all the help on the thermocouple probe removal. The answer was a vise grips and one shot of WD40 around the stuck probe. Wiggle back and forth and voila!
    (photo 2)
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    #54 davehelms, Aug 22, 2011
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    Some projects can never really be called "Done" and seem to end up in perpetual refinement phase. No reason the Motronic 12 cylinder models should be any different. When we can call it Done and there are no more changes in the kit designs..... Daniel will then have them. Until that day it would be little more than a pain for him to be involved in as there are simply too many questions to be answered at this point.

    Fatso is one picky bugger and it is due to his demands of improving our prototype version of this harness that we have come to this point. Those involved in any type of product development know how precious feedback of this nature is. Fatso took on a risky, un proven task and stayed the course throughout the process. How could anyone ever ask for more in a Beta Tester? He has our eternal thanks for his feedback and efforts.

    "Done"? No, not really but some things are too good to wait for them to be "Perfected" in every respect.
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    #55 Cribbj, Aug 22, 2011
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    Pete, are you having them done with a wrinkle powder? NIC (www.nicindustries.com) have a wrinkle powder that looks fairly close to Ferrari's finish. It's called Desert Red, and is their color code wrinkle-pws-2762. Pic below, and they'll reformulate one of their powders to do a close color match for a $100 setup fee and a 5lb minimum order.
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    #56 360modena2003, Aug 22, 2011
    Hi Dave:

    What wiring kits do you offer for the 456 line?

    Do you need a beta tester in Europe?




     
  7. moorfan

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    #57 moorfan, Aug 22, 2011
    John...
    How funny...that is the EXACT color and manufacturer I chose for my cam covers. Too funny. Great minds think alike, eh?

    I chose a prismatic wrinkle finish for the intake manifold called E-9117, also visible on their site.

    Regards,
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    #58 Cribbj, Aug 22, 2011
    Cool; I've been wondering how that powder would look & work 'cause my covers and manifolds need it too, and I was planning on having them done next year with the timing belts. I'll be keen to see how yours come out.

    I like NIC - they reformulated some of their powder for me 3-4 years ago to match a weird metallic blue that I needed and it came out great.
     
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    #59 moorfan, Aug 23, 2011
    Hi Sark,
    There is one vacuum hose attached to the actuator that needs to be removed. There is also a bracket that holds a electrical connector right near it that needs to be removed to lift it out.
     
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    #60 dersark_painclinic, Aug 23, 2011
    Thanks Pete, Sark
     
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    #62 Cribbj, Aug 23, 2011
    Pete - great testimony for that lift - withstood an earthquake and car stayed up.

    That's just about the lift I want, except I'd prefer the 2 poster.

    It's just high enough that you can work on the car from a sit on rollaround stool, right?

    Did you look at the Danmar's?
     
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    #63 moorfan, Aug 23, 2011
    John,
    That thing is only 2/3 of the way up. I can stand under it and work and I'm 5'10"

    There are also two 3500 lb jacks on the runways to take the car up and off the lift with all 4 wheels. I did look at Danmar and at the two posters, but I just was to nervous about two posts. Phobia of mine I guess. :)
     
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    #64 moorfan, Aug 25, 2011
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    The powdercoating saga continues. Actually, I should say the powdercoating saga is over.
    The powdercoater called me the next day to tell me that they had tried to blast the old red off the cam covers with 80 grit Al oxide and that the paint stayed and the surface sparked. After consultation with my shop I asked them to try aircraft stripper on the parts, which they said they would not do because of EPA regulations on using the stuff.

    So home I went with the parts to paint them instead. The results of powdercoating will have to wait for some point in the distant future.

    Maintaining an original factory finish is critical for me, and this requires a "wrinkle" paint. As many of you know, there is not a single aftermarket gray or silver wrinkle paint available anywhere. And before any of you mentions Riloplast, check out the link that shows that even their "silver" spray is a black wrinkle basecoat with a silver overcoating as a second step. The wrinkle powdercoats don't have exactly the same texture, but they would have been pretty close.

    http://www.gasup.it/en/riloplast/rilospray/silver-rolls-royce-paint


    I decided to strip the cam covers, as the paint had cracked and flaked off in large areas. Using aircraft stripper from Pep Boys and a lot of work (three applications each cover) I managed to strip them pretty clean. (photo 1)
    I am waiting on the arrival of VHT Wrinkle Plus paint in red to paint these covers.

    Regarding the intakes, the paint texture was in pretty good shape, but the paint color itself had yellowed and generally looked terrible. I decided to overlay VHT Caliper paint in cast aluminum color on the original factory paint with an aggressive prep/degrease step prior.

    Once these parts were masked and painted, I baked each piece to cure the finish per the instructions of VHT at 200 degrees for 35 minutes.

    I think they came out pretty well. Not exact to original, but close enough for me to be happy. I will have to handpaint the red accents on the manifold once this paint is fully cured. Would anyone do the cavallino in Red also? I've always wondered why they didn't from the factory.
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    #65 Cribbj, Aug 25, 2011
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    Pete, I was wondering if you'd have issues with getting the surface prepped. But hey, now that you've done the grunt work and the cam covers are prepped, why not bring them back to the powdercoater? Or were there other issues?

    Edit: BTW, well done on the manifolds; the paint looks great. Still would have been interesting to see the powder on there, however.
     
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    #66 moorfan, Aug 25, 2011
    John,
    There were no issues with the powder coater...they do a very good job in this area. However, I did a thorough search of all threads on this forum related to powder coating and found just as many people who were dissatisfied with powdercoating as were satisfied. I honestly don't know the right answer here...it will cost about $400 to have the two cam covers powder coated, and about $35 to paint them. There's no doubt that the wrinkle of that powder is not nearly the same texture as the original paint, and with creative use of a heat gun you apparently can get the wrinkle pretty good with the paint.
     
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    #67 moorfan, Aug 25, 2011
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    So today fuel pumps are finally starting to go back together. Still waiting for parts. Some suppliers are great getting the parts to you. Some not so much. Boo. (photo 1)

    Custom wiring harnesses for the pumps were made with chemical-resistant wire and chemical resistant heat shrink. The metal of the connections are now not at all exposed to fuel, unlike with the factory clip harness. (photo 2)

    I also proceeded to try to repair this broken ignition harness (photo 3).

    That is until I found that one of the fragments had lacerated the number 12 spark wire. (photo 4).

    Damn.
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    #68 moorfan, Sep 3, 2011
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    I have been MIA for a while...Irene knocked power out to my house for 7 days. Now that power has returned, time to get to work!

    All my parts have finally arrived, including the SRI gold connector kit. I'm really looking forward to putting this thing all back together (if I can remember it all)

    Cam covers were painted today. I used the standard VHT wrinkle plus red. The wrinkling effect is best achieved by stripping the metal completely (photo 1), cleaning the aluminum with alcohol solution, and then spraying a thick coat all over the cover. Once I was certain that I had covered every part of the cover with a thick paint layer, I gently waved a heat gun over the entire cover back and forth (photo 2). After about 5-7 minutes of heat gunning, the paint wrinkled up to a finish pretty darn close to the original. (photo 3) My only concern is that it is a little "less" red than the original covers were, almost more an orangy-red. They also do not "shine" once the wrinkle forms. I don't know what the original finish was like when new so I'm going to mull the idea of overlaying another red on the red wrinkle. The problem with this will be potential incompatibility of the two paints and peeling issues.

    I had hand painted the accent lines on the plenum covers during the power outage and took a risk. I did the Cavallino also. I realize the purists will say it isn't original, and that there is a fine line between tasteful and tacky, but I like it and it makes this 550 mine! (photo 4)
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    #69 moorfan, Sep 3, 2011
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    Fuel pump assemblies have been reinstalled, overturn valve gaskets have been replaced, and all new hoses/lines put in. Fuel tank has finally returned to its home (photo 1)

    Filler neck piping replaced and reinstalled (photo 2)

    Fuel filters replaced (photo 3)

    Boot fuel tank shield insulation replaced and will be reinstalled after car is filled and restarted to evaluate for leaks. (photo 4)
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    #70 Cribbj, Sep 3, 2011
    Looking good Pete; did you replace the filler piping on an opportunity basis or because you found it cracked?

    The painted covers look really nice!
     
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    #71 moorfan, Sep 4, 2011
    John, the delivery piping on the driver's side outer insulation was cracked, so I took the opportunity to replace all 4 lines "while I was in there". It's a snap to do when the fuel tank is out and the system is drained.
     
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    #72 cwwhk, Sep 4, 2011
    Fantastic thread. Thanks for posting.
     
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    #73 Cribbj, Sep 4, 2011
    Sorry Pete, I was asking about the corrugated/convoluted filler neck piping you mentioned in the previous post (your photo 2) Did you replace that because of a defect, or because of the opportunity?
     
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    #74 Konadog06, Sep 4, 2011
    Pete, your undertaking here and work is impressive.
    On the VHT and applying another color coat, maybe contact VHT for compatibility. Suspect there will at least be a cure time before recoating.

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    #75 moorfan, Sep 4, 2011
    John...I replaced the fuel filler neck and vent pipe because they'd become rather hard. That's it.

    Bill I ended up overlaying the VHT wrinkle plus with Duplicolor red engine enamel. It turned out awesome, and to me identical to original. Problem is that the cam covers are too big for my home oven so they are curing in the sun for the next few days, followed by on the car. :)
     
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