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  1. SDC

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    #76 SDC, Sep 1, 2011
    I support any racer the drives and wins for Ferrari. I don't care if it is the devil himself who is driving the Ferrari, as long as he is winning.... nothing matters!

    Kimi wasted his career at Mclaren. He realised this... left and won a World Championship while Mclaren were still cheating. Alonso left Mclaren due their unethical activities. He joined Ferrari and has ben driving his heart out for the tifosi!

    I said very clearly. I hate any racer that drives for Mclaren. Reason being they drive for the unethical Mclaren team.

    Team orders are legal in F1. Mclaren copied and stole designs from another team. That is still illegal.
     
  2. Smyrna355Spider

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    #77 Smyrna355Spider, Sep 1, 2011
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    I admit I am trying to paint you into a corner with this question but it really is part of why I started this thread. I think we are much to critical of others when most of us have very little if any factual basis to form personal opinions just like your statement that Mclaren and anyone ever associated with them are unethical cheaters. With that said I ask!

    Would you honestly answer? Have you ever told a lie or cheated on anything in your life? I feel very strongly I know the answer so how do you throw out such offensive attacks against people you really don't even know when every last one of us on earth is guilty of the same offense in some way or another?
     
  3. SDC

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    #78 SDC, Sep 1, 2011
    In addition to above...

    There is no person on Earth who has not said a small lie at one point or another in their lives... Including myself. But I have not committed fraud and cheated sports fans like Mclaren do on a daily basis. Furthermore, in a context of sport Mclaren's drivers cheat and accuse other of racial discrimination to gain favors. That is the difference!
     
  4. kraftwerk

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    #79 kraftwerk, Sep 1, 2011
    Ok Maxxx..:D
     
  5. Smyrna355Spider

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    #80 Smyrna355Spider, Sep 1, 2011
    Ok. I really do love Ferrari and hope they finish one two at every race. The only difference I guess is I see Mclaren as a driving motivation for Ferrari to be a better race team and car maker. Same as I see Red Bull this year. They simply put up a fight that makes Ferrari a better car and team. I accept we just can't beat them every year, but Tifosi forever! :)
     
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    #81 joker57676, Sep 1, 2011
    Team orders were illegal in F1 when the Alonso/Massa thing went down. Keep trying to justify your double standard.

    Mark
     
  7. SDC

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    #82 SDC, Sep 1, 2011
    Red Bull and Vettel, I have tremendous respect for as honest competitors. There should be a few more teams in F1 like Red Bull and Ferrari. I will always support Ferrari but I can respect healthy clean competition.

    Mclaren, Ron Dennis and Hamilton are the unethical scum that is rotting F1 from within.

    Team orders are legal now. Everyone realised it was a mistake to put the rule in the first place. Therefore, it was changed.

    Cheating and copying designs of another team is still illegal. Keep trying to prove a point!
     
  8. kraftwerk

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    #83 kraftwerk, Sep 1, 2011
    Aha Maxxx, I see thats why you let Flavio off when he was caught with Mclaren data ...:D
     
  9. barbazza

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    #84 barbazza, Sep 1, 2011
    Well... not exactly. He was a willing participant in their unethical activities. As evidenced by the FIA's own report:

    "The e-mails show unequivocally that both Mr. Alonso and Mr. de la Rosa received confidential Ferrari information via Coughlan; that both drivers knew that this information was confidential Ferrari information and that both knew that the information was being received by Coughlan from Stepney."

    The report further states... "To the WMSC’s knowledge, no effort was taken to report or stem this flow."

    Fortunately for us fans, Ferrari don't have the same lofty moral standards and zero tolerance for cheating that you do. Otherwise they never would have hired Alonso (or Pat Fry) and would be even more uncompetetive than they already are.

    Bottom line is McLaren got caught and were punished. Ferrari let it go. Why can't you?
     
  10. Fan512bbi

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    #85 Fan512bbi, Sep 1, 2011
    Seriously I do not think you have a right to participate in this forum anymore? I am only going to let you have one more chance to participate here from now on otherwise you are out of here.

    Take this as a last chance to redeem yourself or begone, IMO I would like you gone but being the Moderator I am I dont like to use the ban button but in your case I can and will use it OK?
     
  11. tifosi12

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    #86 tifosi12, Sep 1, 2011
    +1
     
  12. Aircon

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    #87 Aircon, Sep 1, 2011
    You people must be very sensitive chaps. I don't even notice his posts anymore.
     
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    #88 barbazza, Sep 1, 2011
    I tried the ignore function but he kept getting quoted so I gave up...
     
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    #89 tifosi12, Sep 1, 2011
    He is not even the worst offender. My radar is always on.
     
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    #90 barbazza, Sep 1, 2011
    Keep an eye out for a guy that's alway bashing Schumi. ;)
     
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    #91 Fan512bbi, Sep 1, 2011
    :D
     
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    #92 tifosi12, Sep 1, 2011
    Uh, oh, time for a costume and wig change...
     
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    #93 joker57676, Sep 1, 2011
    Gotcha, it's perfectly fine to break rules as long as you don't agree with them. Maybe that's what Merc did with stealing Ferrari's docs/info??

    Mark
     
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    #94 ricksb, Sep 1, 2011
    Sorry for the quote, but I was TOTALLY unaware of the fact that Senna drove a silver Mercedes powered McLaren.

    I must have missed that part of the F1 era. Did he win the WDC in it????
     
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    #95 Fan512bbi, Sep 1, 2011
    Maybe it was the black and gold one? maybe the white and red one? or the all red one :D
     
  21. MBFerrari

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    #96 MBFerrari, Sep 1, 2011
    No apparently only Barrichello is the only one who whines according to another Fchatter! LMAO!!!

    I don't like Schumy at all, and it is great watching him get schooled.

    MB
     
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    #97 Fan512bbi, Sep 1, 2011
    schooled? by who is he getting schooled?

    IMO he is schooling them?
     
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    #98 ricksb, Sep 1, 2011
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    It was only last year when....
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    #99 MBFerrari, Sep 1, 2011
    Rosberg = 56
    MS = 42
     
  25. Aircon

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    #100 Aircon, Sep 1, 2011
    I knew MS was 42, but I had no idea Rosberg was so old!
     
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