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  1. Artvonne

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    #26 Artvonne, Oct 22, 2011
    I have a complete set if anyones interested. I have two sets of drive pullies for the setup. The earliest 308's used internally lubricated drive bearings, then in late 77, or early 78, they went to a sealed drive bearing. The two types use a different drive pulley. The later style is used up through the 2V injected cars.
     
  2. lostbowl

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    #27 lostbowl, Oct 22, 2011
    These are 30 yr. old cars and the belts work fine and changing them is just a couple of hours and $60. My question is why fix what isn't broke! I will agree they look nice if that is what you are after. I'm just sayin. lost
     
  3. Artvonne

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    #28 Artvonne, Oct 22, 2011
    The timing belt system Ferrari used on the 308 was antiquated before it hit the streets in 1976, Hondas had a more modern belt, it took Ferrari until the mid 80's to get current. The belts shear teeth, you can argue until the cows come home about all the reasons, or the other reasons (idler bearing failure, drive bearing failure) but the belt is still weak. Its possible Ferrari used it for some performance advantage, and suggesting a 30K mile limit got them past its short life. But the US EPA 50/50 emissions warrantee pushed them right to the edge of endurance.

    I bought the system because I believed the better belt, at more than 3 times the physical strength, would guarantee the motor would make 50K miles without grenading the engine. I still believe that. If I still had a car I would keep it.
     
  4. Ferraripilot

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    #29 Ferraripilot, Oct 23, 2011

    Paul!! We missed you!!

    This is a better system, but I just could not justify the huge amount cost of the thing (odd considering what I am blowing on the 3.4L project right) and I can't imagine with this engine I won't be very regular with my belt changes anyway. The components are certainly top notch though. Eons better than stock.
     
  5. dave80gtsi

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    #30 dave80gtsi, Oct 23, 2011
    "Someone" has just posted this system for sale on eBay w/o pictures - you?

    Assuming so, can you please send me some pics?

    Thanks - DM / dmeredith (at) kineticsnoise (dot) com
     
  6. Artvonne

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    #31 Artvonne, Oct 24, 2011
    Its been a road thats for sure. Maybe I'll try it again sometime. But likely only if I win the lottery. If I have the money im going to get my pilots license and find a plane.

    Yes, thats my ad on fleabay, pics are up.
     
  7. GrayTA

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    #32 GrayTA, Oct 25, 2011
    Good stuff here....




    PDG
     
  8. Mike C

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    #33 Mike C, Oct 28, 2011
    I've got one of Scott McGehee's pulley/belt kits, but haven't put it on yet...
     
  9. Mike C

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    #35 GrigioGuy, Oct 28, 2011
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    I have what may be the only 3.2 set. The lower pieces are different. I had to find a spare, and ship it to him so that he could match it.

    I haven't put it on yet.
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  11. smg2

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    #36 smg2, Oct 29, 2011
    Good grief guys, I know there neat looking and all but put 'em to use :D

    Mike, How's it going?
     
  12. Pizzaman Chris

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    #37 Pizzaman Chris, Oct 29, 2011
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    #38 miketuason, Oct 29, 2011
    Go to sleep Chris it's late! :D
     
  14. dave80gtsi

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    #39 dave80gtsi, Oct 29, 2011
    Thanks, Paul!

    Payment sent.

    Cheers - DM
     
  15. Jonny Law

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    #40 Jonny Law, Aug 1, 2015
    Anyone have an exact part number for the belts? Thx
     
  16. dave80gtsi

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    #41 dave80gtsi, Aug 2, 2015
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    Gates T 201 RB.

    Curious as to why you would ask this?
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  17. Jonny Law

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    #42 Jonny Law, Aug 3, 2015
    Have a new set of gears I have been wanting to install for a while, but they did not come with belts. Couldn't find any where the belt part number was mentioned.
     
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