Sometimes we are blessed to live in this country

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You softie ! you wouldnt last a week in the US of A -

The majority like it that way - you should not be suprised.

 

And hes not the only one. This is one of the reasons (and there are a million more) why so many all over the world are protesting. I have met many in the USA that are in over their heads in debt simply because they got sick. If you have cancer in the US, your almost better off to take a 9mm and you know what. By the time you do all the radiation and chemo (which will kill you faster that the cancer) you will be in for hundreds of thousands. I met a woman in florida that broke her leg and was in for 3 days. When she left they handed her a bill for $34,000. When I talk to many of them down there, they ask me how I can stand to live in a socialist state. I laugh at first and then pull out my OHIP card and explain how it works and why we pay a little more in taxes(which is more than offset by the health insurance payments in the US) Down there for a family of 4 or 5 it cost you around $1000 per month or more for half decent insurance. When I finish explaining to them that thier Republican representatives are pulling the wool over their eyes they start to listen and think a little more. Over the years they have been getting a little smarter but still have a long way to go. The USA and Euro zone are in the end stages of a huge monopoly game and they have reached back into the box for more money once and if they do it again...its game over. |It might be anyway.

 

This topic is beyond beaten to death and lame at this point.

 

Just read thru the P&R section from US members Myself ,as a Conservative in Canada ,would be considered radical leftist in the US. They like it that way. I hope the border stays!

 

Couldn't agree with you more, Fave...wouldn't trade living in this country for anything

 

I disagree 100%.

Try living in a country with a two tiered health care system and see how well it works. You'd be surprised at the difference. None of you who think we live in a land of rainbow colored unicorns with gold encrusted horns dancing thru fields of pink and violet colored flowers have the slightest clue about reality. None whatsoever. Canadian health care is a joke. My wife works in the system as a health care provider. I personally have been sick while in it, and had relatives and friends die because of it. I can't wait to get out of here.

We practice reactive medicine here versus preventative medicine. There is a big difference. Amongst other things.

 

There are pluses and minuses as anywhere....but when you add all the pluses this country offers and the standard of living for all (not just the wealthy!)....we are ahead of any other country....that is why most of the world is trying to Immigrate here....also, that is why ALL Canadians living in the US end up retiring here and keeping their health cards active !

Agree with Fave 100%.....Oh Canada!

 

Its 2 tiered anywhere in Canada in case you havnt noticed. You can go wherever whenever you want for your health care. The two tiered system in places that have it is there because the rich do not want to pay for anyone elses health care. The rich want the best doctors to be at their becan call when they wish. Like someone else above said, I or anyone else in my family has never had to go into debt for healthcare and it has never cost more than the cash in our wallets. By the way, I saw a unicorn the other day....they dont have those in other countries either. Always find it funny when people who come here to live or on business half of the year dont like our system and yet there are more countries every day all around the world that praise our system. O now its not perfect and nothing is on this planet, but its safe to say that Canada is in the lead in almost all life oriented areas.

 

Since we have no clue and our health care system is a joke and your wanting to get out, what are you waiting for? bye bye and don't let the airplane door hit you on your way out.Let's not forget no Heath care system is perfect..... And we are lucky to have some of the the best hospitals around like sick kids, PMH, Toronto Western and a few others that won't require you to have top notch Insurance, sell your house or be rich to get treatment from.... And yes I know what I'm talking about because unfortunately or fortunately I have immediate family members being treated from those facilities.

 

I would hate to think what situation I would be in right now if all the tests and treatments and procedures my wife and I have had over the past 3 months were not covered by OHIP... the American health care situation is very scarey indeed



beev

 

You are both correct but we must keep in mind that those that dont have our system think that theirs is great untill they go broke. More of them are going broke lately. It is truly sad to see what is happening south of us. We could have trouble with our system too soon if we dont change some of our imigration laws soon. The fact that we have a truly great system here in Canada is just one of the reasons why we can own a Ferrari without having to make over 150gs a year. Our health care system is not a for profit machine as in the USA. Thank god for that.

 

Gotta love it! Many south of us just dont get it. Everything is about making a profit. Its getting really bad and they are in some deep ****e down there and yet the majority still think everything is ok. The USA hasnt been this bad ever and im talking about the 30s as well and yet the stock market is still doing great? Do people really think that the markets are not being manipulated? Come on man! People who invest in the markets down there should really give their collective heads a shake. When I watched the news the other night and the cops in Oakland were gasing the protesters, it made me sick. These are the people that have finally opened their eyes and the unions are backing them unlike the flower children of the 60s. This is the kind of mentality that will lead to a revolution soon. The greedy corporations still dont get it and will fight the hand that feeds them untill the end. Kind of reminds me of Edward Smith, his ship and the band that played while it went down...refusing to see the obvious.

 

Had lunch with a one of the top Realestate agents in the country - top 5 in sales in Canada 2008-2010- with another friend of mine who is also an agent.

The buzz word internationally is Canada is the place to be - and for the following in this order.

1) Health Care
2) Business friendly
3) Security

They are convinced realestate prices will continue to move forward because of international wealth flocking here - Oakville will boom higher in the next 10 yrs - with Burlington and surronding areas gaining because Toronto is just getting too ---- get this ---- "Crowded" - not too expensive ---- but too "Crowded"

How this will affect out health care and schools, im somewhat concerned, but hopefully, we have enough decent politicans that can forecast correctly -

Lets just hope they build a few more hospitals, and we are able to keep our doctors in Canada - we have a good thing going, i would hate to see us f*** up -

God Bless Canada

 

+1 Thanks for some truth. Every single person that I've known to have had serious ailments was seeking healthcare outside of Canada, mostly in US and even in some countries that are half as wealthy! Buffalo MRI has Canadians as their number 1 clients. Its a total joke, people need to STFU with their utopia none-sense. I also find it amazing that Canadians have to constantly remind themselves publicly how "great they have it", especially with comparisons to the US(literally not a WEEK goes by, where some Canadian isn't doing a US comparison). If a country knows they are the BOMB they don't have to constantly remind themselves of it. I can sense the major insecurities Canadians tend to have, while suffering from a major case of stockholm syndrome. The place is FAR from a utopia. At most its an average place that's *extremely* dull. How do I know its dull? Well, how pathetic of an existence do you have to have where your national hobby is sitting 3-4hours at a border just because the other side had discounts on cheap electronics and bargain bin clothes(fashion from a decade ago)? Sorry chumps, get yourselves plane tickets and see other places(and I'm not referring to South Florida or Cuba(cheapskate Canadians favorite destination)).

 

Thanks for that observation, just solidifies the case that Canada is in a major credit bubble that is coming to an end. Every time a place is "the place to be" by top real estate gurus, its near a TOP(major turning point). I've seen this exact attitude in EVERY single case all around the world. If Burlington/Oakville boomtown, why is their for sale signs on almost every second home driving down Lakeshore? Why is the nightlife so damn *bad/nonexistent* there? Why has net migration to Canada slowed down dramatically + BC was negative for the first time ever? I wish your friends worked for publicly traded companies so I could place major shorts on.

I am willing to wager anyone on here, 5G that within 5 years Canada is going to be experiencing *major* problems.

 

20 yrs ago - 30 yrs ago - i would have agreed with you -

BUT - with the world population hitting 7B (TODAY it was annonced) , and expected to double in our life time to 14B in the 25 -35yrs, i would disagree with you.

What you see for sale primarily in oakville are the lots and land on the waterway , that is all being rezoned - im there often , and its in all transition, because there are some of the toronto rich, that dont want to live in such a conjested pocket.

Will RE slow, im sure it will, growth will be flat, but negatives like the US where we see crashes, wont happen, there is no WAL MART workers buying 500K homes wiht 10K int his country - so i wouldnt call the sky is falling just yet.

WIth a large middle class in India and China growing, these people are all wanting to come here - Mississugua just records a few months the most paid for a house $10M - and it was a Chinese biz man -

A slow down coming, yes, a crash - not likely.

People in Canada actually work

 

It's not land, drive down lakeshore sir. You've got huge baller homes for sale, newly built too. Secondly, yes it is walmart type workers buying homes. You only need 5% down to buy a home these days in Canada and some shady operations are getting away with 100% mortgages. With very low interest rates and 5% down, someone making 30-50k a year can now afford what 5 years ago required 100k+ incomes! Did your RE agents ever ask themselves how *dead* broke Canadians(highest debt to income ratios in the world) are managing to buy houses? Toronto and Vancouver are now more expensive to live in then NYC but with 40-50% less income then Manhattan and 90% less ballers? Average single family home in Toronto costs 600k+, while 25% of households live on or under the poverty line.

You are right Canadians do work, but they are the least productive workers out of the entire G8. They lag hard in innovation(dullness) + productive work ethic. And its not surprising when according to the latest surveys nearly 20-25% of the population are active potheads, and over a month of an entire year is lost just sitting in traffic.

Yes I agree, Chinese have been propping up real estate in Canada, especially in Vancouver where an average home now costs 900k. But that is mostly laundered money escaping China and having nowhere to go, the Chinese economy is currently rapidly decelerating so hot flows exiting could stop fast.

Listen, Canada is a good country because its relatively stable and dull. Old people can live here calmly. There is only one friendly neighbor, and the land mass is gigantic. Canadian's are generally decent people that mind their own business(too stoned most of the time to be busy bodies) The only reason you don't here these negative things about Canada on the news is because Canadian media tends to be FAR less transparent then counterparts in the US. Look how you know all about Walmart workers in US buying homes, but have very little knowledge of whats happening in own backyard.

 

2 years ago you said that Canada would be in trouble soon, now its 5 years. Well Ill bet Canada could be in some sort of trouble sometime this century...maybe, but by then the USA will be renamed and run by China and Canada will still be better off. There are(not is) "for sale" signs in many places because it is fall and there always "are" more houses for sale now at this time of the year. What the hell has night life in the Oakville area got to do with anything? Migration to Canada I hope does slow soon as we have had too much influx for too many years and it would be good to temper imigration a bit. BTW there are no Mexicans sneeking over the border to the USA because there are no jobs for them....this was on CNN last week. I wonder why the republicans want to build a big fence? Is it to stop Mexicans entering or Americans leaving? As for the stock market.....a major place for losers and a great place for the billionairs to suck up the losers money. Its a legalized pyramid that keep ratcheting upward no matter what.

 

This whole post is absolutely out to lunch. One of the reasons many drugs enter Canada is because their biggest market is in the USA and it is very easy to get it there from here. Maybe you have been smoking too much of the stuff or could it be injecting too much? As for the media transparency......WOOOW! The media in the USA is the most controlled media outside of old Russia. The average American thinks it snows in Toronto year round. A customer at Daytona auto last week told me that he was recently asked by an American in PA. how he could drive his Mercedes up here with all the snow. I’m down in the US a lot and outside of New York city, many have no idea what goes on outside their own state let alone their country.

What are you doing living in such a screwed up country like Canada anyway? Or is it that your an American and cant use our medical system thats got you in a tizzy?