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Does colour matter

Discussion in '206/246' started by 87testa, Nov 16, 2011.

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  1. tx246

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    Today, I think colors that are correct to the make are importnat, but not in a way that affect value.

    Most Ferrari collectors won't add/deduct value for a truely correct color, even if it didn't leave the factory that way. But, as for repainting a Dino to a "typical" color, don't expect to get extra value unless you have a dog car to begin with and aren't doing a proper restoration.
     
  2. 2GT

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    My feelings exactly. If ownership of a magnificent automobile is conditioned on its resale value should you be forced to sell, you are missing the point of ownership, in my humble opinion. "Ownership" denotes control, and your personal preferences should be the animating factor in deciding on a proper color. On the other hand, if you personally prefer 100% originality over all else, then that is your preference. Keep it original because that's the way you like it, not out of fear of depreciation or rejection in the resale market. Fred
     
  3. Bullfighter

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    #53 Bullfighter, Nov 21, 2011
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    I wouldn't necessarily equate a desire for originality with a fixation on resale.

    My view isn't based on resale, but on wanting to "time travel" back to when the car was new and own it from day one. What was it really like the day it rolled into port?

    Different colors are popular now than were popular then (early 1970s). I think one of the more fascinating aspects of cars is the palette of a particular era. Every time someone restores an early Porsche 911, for example, and ditches signal orange or light yellow in favor of me-too silver, I think we've lost a bit of history. Not money, but the kind of "what was the car like back in the day?" aspect of it. Given the cars are cared for now, unlike they were back then, it's unlikely they will ever need another restoration and be restored to original.

    Resale is a valid reason, in other words, but there are others.
     
  4. 87testa

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    I share a similar view. It is less about resale and more about "time travel"
     
  5. Tassie

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    Love this talk.

    I have a 512 that was white when it left the factory but red when it was delivered to it's first owner because he wanted a red one. What is the original colour?

    Personally, it is your car and do what you want. When you sell the potential buyers will make up their own mind about what matters and what value it has to them, then you have the final say on whether you sell or not. All in your hands, case closed.
     
  6. 4CamGT

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    #56 4CamGT, Nov 21, 2011
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    I think that period colours are more popular now than ever. When Dinos were new many owners chose red vs some of the more risky period colours. I say go for some of the more interesting period colours!! That is why on Porsches,"signal colours" bring more value. It has been less popular on early 911's to do a colour change because they were high volume (compared to Ferrari) production cars. 356's on the other hand were coachbuilt and the market tolerates colour change better. Eventually this will happen to an early 911 as well. An original signal colour on a Porsche from new on a survivor or concours car will always be more desireable. On a Dino I think the same. Original always trumps! But... if the Dino came from new with a less popular colour and its not a patinaed survivor, a bare metal repaint in a more popular or interesting period correct colour will probably bring more value and interest. As an example European Collectibles will restore a Porsche Speedster in black or silver to resell. It will bring more money and sell faster (I've been told) and they look fantastic!! Now you're Steve McQueen circa 1958! Talk about time travel!! One only has to look at some of John Willhoits Porsche restorations in interesting period colour combinations on 356's such as Stone Grey with green leather on 356's. In being the customer coming to Ferrari in the late 60's/early 70's to buy your new Dino, YOU choose the colour!! If it looks right, it is right!!

    Freeman
     
  7. alberto

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    Is the orange color of the cover of the book "Rosso Dino" ?
     
  8. GermanDino

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    Yes, kind of "Rosso Dino" but not 100% match.
    The 206 GT is Rosso Dino.
    Rosso Dino was introduced shortly after production start of the 206 GT.
    More than 1/5 of all 206 GT were original painted Rosso Dino.
    The classic Dino red!
    Later in production Rosso Chiaro became more popular....
     
  9. alberto

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    Love that Rosso Dino color on them. To me, it just looks 'Period". I may have to buy that book just on the basis of the cover! It'd be even better if the color matched (hint hint)
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    I can assure you that Matthias Bartz brand new Dino book is absolutely sensational.
    Nobody on this planet knows more about these lovely cars. I have seen a few Ferrari books over the years but this one will be impossible to beat. Well done Matthias!

    Marcel Massini
     
  11. GIOTTO

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    So, I need one for me and another one in my safe.
     
  12. alberto

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    When and where will it be available?
     
  13. 4CamGT

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    Here you go!

    Freeman
     
  14. Pooh-Baugh

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    OK, I need to buy two. I'm going to put one in my safe as well!!!!!! I can not wait to get my hand on Matthias' wonderful work. He is a true MASTER of the Dino. He has been/is a real help in my restoration project.

    Cheers,
    Bob
     
  15. GermanDino

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    in approx. two to three weeks time
    I will let you know
    regards Matthias
     
  16. 4CamGT

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    #66 4CamGT, Nov 24, 2011
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  17. Nuvolari

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    Metallic colours work really well with the Dino because it brings out the minor nuances in the body. The image of the green car really shows some nice details that were penned in the design of the Dino
     
  18. Edward 96GTS

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    Lighter interior works well to.
     
  19. Pooh-Baugh

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  20. Dino Club Germany

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    Really cool color!
     
  21. Rock

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    I think its time that we abandon red/tan. I know I have.
     
  22. 4CamGT

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    +1
     
  23. 4CamGT

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  24. GermanDino

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    it`s #03436, the car belongs to very good friend of mine
    the other Verde Bahram Dino (#03404, German delivery) is unkown, possible gone..
    so this one is the last one left
    regards Matthias
     
  25. 4CamGT

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