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  1. JeremyJon

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    #1 JeremyJon, Dec 9, 2011
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    i've heard several meanings over the years....found this article, which has one i never heard before....i for one still have never learned concretely which explination is correct?

    some of our more connected members like Mr JG or Marsell might have some insight

    post up what you believe his jesture meant! :)

    http://stvmcqueen.tripod.com/lesalute.htm
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  2. jeffdavison

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    #2 jeffdavison, Dec 9, 2011
    In England it's basically the equivalent of the USA's middle finger gesture.

    Be careful not to use it in a Pub when ordering two pints. You have to reverse the gesture with the palm out, or you may just start a brawl.

    JD
     
  3. JeremyJon

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    #3 JeremyJon, Dec 9, 2011
    ^^ that's not right....in the movie he was in friendly competition with the Ferrari driver, not flipping him off
     
  4. tervuren

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    #4 tervuren, Dec 9, 2011
    Not to mention he's an American driver, and the Ferrari driver was a German, no UK connection there.
     
  5. 4re Nut

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    #5 4re Nut, Dec 9, 2011
    consider the source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign

     
  6. JeremyJon

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    #6 JeremyJon, Dec 9, 2011
    i use to think it was "V" for victory, but then his hand would be turned the opposite direction (inside of palm, not back of hand)

    in the film, he (delaney) motions the gesture a couple of times to (stahler), and in reply the stahler nodes with somewhat respect/approval
     
  7. JeremyJon

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    #7 JeremyJon, Dec 9, 2011
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    #8 4re Nut, Dec 9, 2011
    That reminds me of this scene from Inglourious Basterds:

    http://vimeo.com/26173031

    ;)
     
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    #9 texasmr2, Dec 9, 2011
    I would have to rewatch for a proper opinion.
     
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    #11 4re Nut, Dec 9, 2011
    Ok; we'll wait. Bring back popcorn...please.
     
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    #12 texasmr2, Dec 9, 2011
    It may be a month or two before I can even find the tape so......
     
  13. JeremyJon

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    #13 JeremyJon, Dec 9, 2011
    most likely something on youtube, i'll check it out

    that's a classic pic! :)
     
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    #14 wax, Dec 9, 2011
    "Hey man, smell my fingers"
     
  15. FarmerDave

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    #15 FarmerDave, Dec 9, 2011
    My 7th grade teacher was married to a brit.

    He said that the two finger salute originates from the days of english archers who, when captured by their foe, would be punished by having those two fingers cut off.

    The archers who still had both fingers would show them to their foe during battle.
     
  16. FarmerDave

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    #16 FarmerDave, Dec 9, 2011
    I read the article after posting my answer... i think theres you're answer
     
  17. Isobel

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    #17 Isobel, Dec 9, 2011
    Fairly certain McQueen is asking if his rival is racing a Deux Chevaux.
     
  18. JeremyJon

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    #18 JeremyJon, Dec 9, 2011
    it is an interesting one, which i hadn't heard before......it would be great to learn of some interview or quote that could confirm, either by mcqueen, or another person linked to the film?
     
  19. JeremyJon

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    #19 JeremyJon, Dec 9, 2011
    a two horse dual? perhaps?
     
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    #21 Isobel, Dec 9, 2011
    Cool.

    Blood on the nose indicates he was having difficulty with the unaided cliff diving scene in Papillion.

    Stunt men can be so recalcitrant..;).
     
  22. JeremyJon

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    #22 JeremyJon, Dec 10, 2011
    LOL yes, he did a lot of his own stunts too

    ...still searching for some more definitive proof of what intended meaning was, or what they/mcqueen thought or intended it mean?
     
  23. Craigy

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    #23 Craigy, Dec 10, 2011
    It means. . . "Yes, I know I'm a hoss."
     
  24. jeffdavison

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    #24 jeffdavison, Dec 10, 2011
    Steve's character may have "outwardly" given the gesture, but the body language, a bit of a smile and spirit of commaradary amongst fierce competitors, at least for me, both knew it was just the opposite, it was sarcasm.. doing one thing, that both parties knowing that it meant the opposite...Not so much "F*ck you" but yah man it was a great race and you put up a good fight and I respect you for it. These fingers only show respect for a job well done as they understand each others natures.

    JD

     
  25. Napolis

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    #25 Napolis, Dec 10, 2011
    A French Kiss With Death went into it and I believe this is correct.
     
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