Considering 612, Want Advice

Your best is more than most------thank you Taz.

So, with that said, the 2005 612 may have a shift speed of 180ms.

The HGTS/C packages that came on the 2006 to 2007 612's gave the 612 a shift time to 160ms.

The 2008 and up,612's incorporated the super fast F1 (standard) in thier cars which gave a 100ms shift time.

However, the 2008 612 and up could be optioned out to have the HGTS package which gave the shift time to around 80ms.

After researching this 612 model it seems that were alot of internal upgrades that happened to it over the years. upgrades that could be optioned and upgrades that became standard-----confusing at least to me. I guess that is why there is such a big price difference between the 2005 and 2006, and also between 2006/2007 to 2008 and up.

I was hoping that the 2006/2007 HGTS/C shift times were closer to the 2008 model of 100ms.

Now with this info, I need to start test driving the models to see if I can feel the difference, mostly between the 2006/2007 HGTS/C option and the 2008 standard. How the car feels is what matters to me. I know this is not a sports car but still would like to have the sporty feel on the GT 612. There are some nice 2006/2007 HGTS/C out there that are reasonable. But all fingers seem to point to a 2008.

Thanks Taz for the great info.

greyhair

 

GS- My 575M shifts at 220 ms and that is plenty quick enough for me. Do not get hung up on shift times. Even that 220 ms is way faster than a three pedal can do. 100 mph is 147 fps. A 220 ms shift covers ~32' at that speed and less for lower speeds. Less than two car lengths at 100 mph.

 

i dont know what the speeds are but my 09 612 feels like it shifts faster than my 430

 

Piper: You must think back.. Why did this 612 interest you? Most likely, it is a combination of many things.. Model, color, price range, V12 vs your 430s V8, 4 seats, styling etc etc...

My opinion is that often if you have found something that interest you, that is also what you will be most satisfied with if the car runs up to your expectations. Because it matches your preferances.

MY OWN OPINION (not based on any fact one or the other way), is that the 612 is a car that is a top-of-the-line Ferrari model and for 80-90.000 USD, that can not be anything else than one hell of a car for the money! In regards to 612 vs. 599...: I understand that the 599 is a sportier car, but honestly, the 612 has a lot more "class" and it is practical. After owning a 456M, I must say that I have always been happy and laid back with the 4-seat configuration. It just make it easy to justify the cost of owning a Ferrari. And you can share the Ferrari-joy with trippel the amount of people as with a 2-seater.... About the color: It is sure not the first choise for the most of us, but there is something very elegant with it too. Like the previous owner explain, he was very comfortable with it!! This car is for the true gentlemen! The size of the 612 is somewhat too big to me, but it matches the new price of this car.

BUY IT! Enjoy it and put lots of miles on it! Sell it for market value after a few years. It will be a lot chaper than buying a 599 anyway. And is almost as fast. Good luck

 

"the 612 has a lot more "class" and it is practical". Hmmm, how many glasses of wine was this typed after?

 

Piper,
Taz is correct,Dont get hung up on shift times especially for a 599 or 612...When I found out my 599 could not be retrofitted with the HGTE ECU I was not bummed out as the suspension parts are really what mattered to me..I was told you would really have to drive the cars back-to-back to notice any difference. 100ms VS 85ms wow,lol
Remember the 612 and 599 are GTs but can still be hustled around back roads with much fun too..If you want take a look at my 599 in the V-12 classifieds. I can wait until you sell your 430 too.
To me the 599 is 2 cars in 1, a big GT that can get you there in comfort and style and a sports car with bite. If the extra 2 seats matter to you then by all means go for the 612. The hunt is half the fun..Good Luck,Kevin

 

Kevin- Your 599 is beautiful and I for one would love to have her. No way, unfortunately, but you did to yours what I would have done to mine if I had the money and car.

 

Nobody needs a Ferrari having said that you could always keep the 430 and see what happens. It will probably not depreciate that much till you see how the wind blows. Life and business is always uncertain, as is seeing tomorrow.

 

Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing. Bravo to you for thinking things out and remember no one is going to be mad at you ,its your money,lol Everyone on this forum is/are in different financial and personal situations: its good to see you are thinking about your family first.

 

Taz,
I meant the reply to be aimed at Piper,lol....Iam like Piper in a way as Iam always looking for something I think may be better/Fun/cooler,lol...I just have to stop looking at car forums......OH YEAH I forgot to tell you Its good to see you back!!!!!!

 

Bob- That is a whole different ball of wax, but I have never been able to afford any of the Ferraris I had, so am used to it.

 

Bob, others before you have had to make similar choices. The only thing we'll be disappointed in is if you disappear when your Ferrari is gone.
You can be certain that once things become stable with your business there will be another Ferrari for you to buy and an Fchat for you to talk about it with. Do what's best for you and the family.

 

Good luck with your hunt! So far I'm really impressed with the 612!

 

Don't worry. I just got a 612 with the HGT2 package and am pretty much blown away. I'll post more later but basically it's like have a rocket pack strapped to the back of a lazyboy lounge chair. It's a cool car.

IMO wait for prices to drop on the HGT2 cars and wait for one of those.

 

Can't wait to see it! But you rarely come to C&C anymore!

Let me know if you need pics!

 

I'll come to the next one..before noon even!

 

You want me to bring your CS for you?

PLEASE, PLEASE don't say you sold that, I'd cry if you did!

 

Challenge 64.....Let's see your new 612

 

Still have the CS

Give me a few hours!