350/400GT thread

Happy New Year Guys!

Should be a fun 2012 for our cars!

Cheers,

Fred

PS: Ooooh! 574 -- how does it look Olivier? That's a real 400

 

Asking price is 495,000 Euros = $640,600

 

“Touringwise” this is definitely the last 2-seater.

Firewall plate says “350GT” , script on the rear says 400GT , I wonder what’s stamped on the chassis.

Originally delivered to Swiss I saw this car for the first time with Belgian registration at SpaItalia in 2004. The fog light on the rear makes me believe the car came to Belgium at an early stage.

Some odd features :
- steering wheel
- Miura rims
- 2+2 headlights
- missing touring plate

Happy new year all !

 

Interesting, I got a list from MdL and Marcello about all 350/400GT delivered to Switzerland, but this car was not on that list.
Perhaps it was in switzerland before but originally delivered?

I know of #460 and #490 interim being delivered to CH, also the VIN #574 is not a 350/400GT but a 400GT, strange car. Perhaps Fred can shed some light into the dark.

 

I own a 1969 Ferrari 365 GTC and have been considering replacing it with a Lamborghini 350 GT or 400 GT Interim. I'm wondering how the two cars compare in driving characteristics and seat of the pants feel. The GTC (330 or 365) has always gotten very high marks for its overall driving qualities. The 350 GT, being a little older in design than the GTC and lacking the torque tube and rear-mounted transmission, may give up something, but I'm not sure. I have been told that the 350 GT feels more like a Lusso. The visual style of the 350 GT is quite striking, and IMO trumps the GTC. I'm not keen on sacrificing too much of the wonderful feel of the GTC from behind the wheel, however. Comments from anyone who has driven the 350 GT and/or 400 GT Interim would be much appreciated, especially if they also have had some seat time in a GTC. Thanks!

 

Actually, I've driven both. I own a 400GT 2+2. The GTC is a pretty great car, and I'd say by 1969 Ferrari was catching up with Lamborghini. ;^D

First of all, very briefly (cuz I'm running out the door) there's a great deal of difference between a 350GT and 400GT Interim so you have to address the cars separately. The 400GT Interim is obviously faster since it has a bigger motor. Still, your GTC is most likely faster -- the GTC is like a "little muscle-car" as my buddy Thomas puts it. But you'll also find that the 350/400GT is a much quieter car on so many levels, a better touring car. Don't get performance and touring confused.

ie: if you don't want to "sacrifice the wonderful feel of the GTC from behind the wheel" then stick with the GTC. If you want more of a GT (touring) car, then go with the lambo, it'll be quieter all around, smoother over bumps and that sort of thing. You'll lose that great Ferrari sound if you switch -- it really is magnificent. But of course, you'll pick up a great Lamborghini sound, which is more like a fine Swiss watch.

You really have to go out and drive a lambo, there's no substitute for that!

Cheers,

Fred

PS: AND -- drive one that is properly restored, not a POS.

 

Hey Raymond,

What's the question specifically? Are you asking if 574 was delivered to CH?

I'll go check my notes.

Cheers,

Fred

 

Thanks for the comments, Fred. I appreciate you taking the time to fill me in a bit. The 365 GTC does have some punch to it and is really a very nice touring car, IMO. The feeling from inside the airy cockpit is quite special. I am not adverse to losing a little "oomph" off the line or in a downshift for passing, as would seem to be the case with the Lamborghinis, as long as I am also not giving up a decent ride and road feel. I have a 365 Boxer that will give me all the Ferrari 12-cylinder thrills I need.

I would be happy to meet someone who would be willing to swap some seat time in a 350 GT or 400 GT Interim for time behind the wheel of my 365 GTC.
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Again, it all depends on what you are looking for. Don't forget when you're talking about a 350GT you really should be comparing it to a Lusso or something -- it's a 1964 car, not a 1969. Ferrari was using 1950s technology when Lamborghini introduced the 350GT, and when you start doing comparisons like that Lamborghini comes out way ahead. Maybe compare the 365 GTC passing speeds with a Miura SV. ;^D

Cheers,

Fred

 

Here you go Raymond:

574/527, grigio saint-vincent/tobacco, 1/18/1967, garage du quai du mont blanc ginevra, Switzerland

Fred

 

Hi Olivier,

Just got off the phone with Al. The car is not there, it's being restored for D'Estes, this year's or next -- they're shooting for this.

So maybe you'll see it first!

Cheers,

Fred

 

Thanks Fred, is it a 350/400GT interim or a 400GT2+2 from the build specs?

 

350GT.

But I believe various parts of the body are slightly different.

fwiw, here are photos of Al's car "before":

http://www.400gt.com/misc/350GTS/

Cheers,

Fred

 

Where is the car being restored then ?

 

Agreed. Taken at 30th Anniversary 1993
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Don't know Olivier, he didn't tell me (and I didn't ask!)

Cheers,

Fred

 

#0597 up for auction in Monaco

http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?SaleCode=MC12&CarID=r315#

 

Chassis: #0649
Motore: #0597
Touring: 19010 ?

Originally delivered to Spain but (back) in Italy since many years

 

Wonder what the estimate is?

 

The car is offered on another website for 220.000 euro.

 

$289k

Hope they get $300k!

Thanks Kevin,

Fred

 

A nice early 350GT seen at Milano Autoclassica on the Touring stand. I love the early badge! I wonder how many were produced with this type.
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stunning

Gary
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More pictures of the show at:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356770

 

Spoke to the people of Carrozzeria Marazzi Spa, they will try to find some period pictures of my 400GT 2+2, which was bought new by Mr Marazzi in 1966, hopefully they will succeed.
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