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The Enzo successor 920 HP!!!

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Ferrari FXX, Feb 16, 2012.

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  1. mrbucket2

    mrbucket2 Formula 3

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    I find high revving naturally aspirated engines to be more fun. They certainly sound much better as well.
     
  2. Bas

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    the 911 GT3 RS 4.0 has 125hp per liter, 458 124hp per liter. No idea what that is per cubic inch though
     
  3. Bas

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    Because that's stupid...

    What's the point in having 1000hp, when you can't put it down? Look at lap times on just about any track, The veyron gets beaten by cars with 300-400hp less left right and center. Top speed above 200mph is utterly pointless since realistically it won't be done on a track, and damn near impossible on a road. Even the Autobahn.

    Add lightness, 700hp V12 and that idiotic hybrid system (as Jim explained, looks like it won't be a proper KERS) and you'll have more power than you'll ever need. Can you imagine the speed of a <1200kg car with that amount of power? 10x more fun than a car weighing in at 1600kg (turbo systems are heavy and need extra cooling to keep it reliable). ****, even if they could keep the weight down to 1200kg it would be impossible to put the power down.

    I know what I'd choose...
     
  4. mrbucket2

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    61 cubic inches per liter roughly.
     
  5. REALZEUS

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    Cause that's the way idiots do it; it's the easy way. Ferrari could easily produce 1000 HP from a 7 litre NA engine reving at 9500+ RPM and that's something that only a handful of manufacturers can accomplish. That's what sets Ferrari and its likes apart from the pleb. On top of that a NA engine will always be superior to a similarly powered turbocharged one in high end power, "revviness", throttle sharpness and accuracy and of course sound!
     
  6. REALZEUS

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    Er no! The 458 has 127 per litre and holds the world record for a NA production engine!
     
  7. Ryan S.

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  8. REALZEUS

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    Of course not! Don't be sulfurous pls!
     
  9. Ryan S.

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    Gotta test the limits of that new AWD system in the FF somewhere.
     
  10. texasmr2

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    My thinking is that Ferrari will keep their flagship as close too a F1 car (in theory) as possible and stay with rwd.
     
  11. REALZEUS

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    That 4WD system is not performance enhancing! Ferrari has stated officially that it is used in low grip situations only and that 4WD is not befitting of a supersports car. The system even disengages in the Sport setting of the manettino. Thus, only the grand tourers will get it.
     
  12. gatorgreg

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    Ferrari needs to put Glickenhaus on the design team, so it looks as good as the P4/5.
     
  13. Napolis

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  14. 250P

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  15. REALZEUS

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    The Atom does not really qualify as a production, street car. In that sense, the Caparo T1 has all the records with the Cosworth F1 derived engine! But that's silly, isn't it?
     
  16. 250P

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    That is certainly quite a large power/weight ratio, but I'm sure the 'F70' will have more electronic driver aids than you can shake a stick at to keep all those ponies under reasonable control.

    Here's a Gardner Douglas T70, just under 2000lbs, 700hp tuned LS7. Not a 'Disgrace' by the way, but a modern 'tribute'- it's never trying to be a replica. Backbone chassis, fully independent suspension, zero driver aids, not even abs. Scroll down for the video:
    http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=21822

    Not many chassis can put huge power down. Some like the Ultime GTR (Mclaren used one a the development mule for the original F1 drivetrain) with 720 NA hp can crack 60mph in 2.6s, 100 in 5.3s, and the standing quarter in 9.9s whilst geared for 200mph with a 5sp G50 box.
     
  17. rossocorsa13

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    Oh, of course. :)

    And I'll still drool over it when it debuts, if only for the numbers that it will put up.
     
  18. rossocorsa13

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    Didn't mean that the power/weight ratio was a stupid thing. I mean that it was going to be insanely awesome. :)

    Great vid, too.
     
  19. 250P

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    Yes, it is going to be insanely awesome(!) in a controlled way :)

    The electric motor/s will make up for the 'lack of torque' (relative to forced induction engines).
     
  20. Heracles

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    Dream on.

    GT3 RS 4 L Metzger engine is much more impressive, given that it produces a similar HP / liter figure but has 2 less cylinders.
     
  21. Drive550PFB

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    What is that white round disc just under the license plate?

    Also, front view of the new F70 looks a lot like your cars.
     
  22. Red Head Seeker

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    I have NO respect for you Realzeus who are so quick to use the term "Idiot" when your perception is different from anothers....The Ferrari F40 is a "Turbo" charged "Super Car". I don't feel the Ferrari engineers were "Idiots" to increase the F40's horsepower rating by "Turbo" charging it, obviously you do......Mark
     
  23. REALZEUS

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    First of all, I did not call you an idiot, hence I see no reason for you to get crossed. Other than that, Ferrari has stated numerous times that they regard N/A engines as superior to their turbocharged coutnerparts. Ferrari usually follow F1 trends but the fact that 99% of their cars have been N/A is telling of what they really think.
     
  24. REALZEUS

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    The firts part is totally feasible. The FXX uses this layout largely.

    Now, the number of cylinders has nothing to do with it. Cylinder size is telling but Ferraris always had greater specific output than Porsches.
     
  25. 250P

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    Guys, I think we are getting a bit side tracked here. A manufacturer needs to balance specific output with drivability, emissions, reliability, and many other factors.

    There have always been peaky NA engines, 911R, 911 2.5S/T, 33-Stradale, Dino 206SP- to name a gorgeous few from years ago, but these days legislation is making them less viable.
     

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