San Diego European / Desert European - eBay fraud...

might want to contact ebay regarding their policy with this sort of thing. A number of times, I've seen these disputes end up publicized online and the pressure has pushed dealers to do the right thing (as they should have form the beginning) I suppose you could try to get the story out to some of the car blogs out there and see if they go with it. Just be sure to have your facts 100% correct.

Good luck!

 

I'd think you should just move on and drop it. Ebay is a garbage pale of a place to deal with sometimes you get lucky other times you can get caught up in such a disaster. Take it for what its worth and look at it the 3 types of outcome you would had with a used car on ebay.

1) Wire funds and get a car that would be a nightmare problems to deal with
2) Get the car and it turns out it's require more money in parts/labor then the car is worth ?
3) Wire funds and the car goes MIA.


Can't stress enough, if your spending this sort of money go and see the car in person and have a look under it and kick the tires, get the proper tech to pull data off the cars Black box and just get all of the chips in your pocket before you make an offer or put an online bid in.

Sucks overall for the OP but take it as a lesson learned/burned.

 

You see what I mean its like there is no one in ebay's customer service anymore. Been dealing with a refund I gave a customer of mine and its been 2 effing months and ebay has not credited me back for the return credit Final Value fees.

Frankly get up on autotrader and crazed list for craigslist and just search find another car that is closer to you and better suited. Its their loss on the sale and I'm sure there is another car out there that is better then the one you found.

 

+1, just bought a Brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit overland V6 All optioned. The dealer did a dealer trade to get the color I wanted and boom I get into the jeep to check it out before I sign the paper work = 500 miles on it, that is not a new car but I would consider that sort of mileage to be used.


I was ******** about this, eventually it was taken care of and I got it for $39k OTD after the mess they caused. Sticker on it was about $48k with all of the options but I cant stress
check the car out in all details even if its new.

 

Sounds like they think they car sold too cheap? About all you can do is keep making a stink and hopefully they figure the bad PR isn't worth pissing somebody off over. Make the rounds posting this on the various forums. Total sleaze move on their part. If you haven't seen the car personally and or had it checked out i.e. PPI, they could be doing you a favor? Try to buy something like that private party or from a reputable dealer. If you don't physically look at a car you leave yourself open to shenanigans. Good luck.

 

Also try better business bureau and post on dealerrater.com

 

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I recently purchased a Lotus from San Diego European and it was nothing but a pleasant experience. I am local though and feel that car internet auction deals, especially reserved ones, are to be taken with a grain of salt. I never take them seriously, because I know the seller doesn't. What I mean by this is that the buyer more than likely is a first time customer and if they decide to buy another car again it probably won't be from the same seller. So the seller doesn't feel obligated to please the buyer through this transaction. And I firmly believe the old adage, if the deal is too good to be true, it probably is. Unfortunately, no reserve eBay car auctions create the perfect storm that is best to be avoided. I still think it justifies how you were treated and it certainly doesn't help their case, but hopefully both partied learned from this experience. Once burned, twice shy.



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I've won items on eBay where the sellers backed out due to either not getting enough money for shipping or due to listing a Buy it Now price that is too low. Happened a few times and although it is against eBay policy, there is really nothing a buyer can do to force the seller to deliver the goods. My money was returned in all cases.

I would never buy a vehicle over eBay and as another poster stated, move on.

 

+1

Ebay really is a time bomb ticking essentially and how its business practice is overall run i'd not be betting on that horse anymore. At the end of the day it's good to know about this experience one has had but at the same time, people should look into the time one has to post up a negative view, and on the flip side of this take for instance yelp



Sure you can go on there get a whole bunch of nice reviews of any given place but at the same time one has to consider that might be someone's friends posting those good reviews and its very easy for competitors to manipulate negative comments on any given business, that said with your experience and others have had on ebay the negative comments posted can be just people not happy on an example your "winning" bid price.


buying a car at any auction sight un-seen and getting it delivered with out touching it first is serious risky business, I have taken the gamble and its win or loose. any high dollar car or etc just go there in person pick up and pay a dealer, I'm always hesitant of doing any private sale as there are way more legal and tax liabilities when it comes down to it and would you be able to provide any insight about this asides from the basics bill of sale and title etc ?

 

Yes, yes indeed we all need to know this. Reminds me of the loud guy in the restaurant screaming on the phone with his business deal at hand.
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