just to report a tranny problem.....lost of reverse, 2nd, and 6th gears....

Well in the meantime I'm enjoying my DCT

 

You're correct. I found this out when shopping for the FF at Ferrari of Atlanta. For sure, the warranty itself is NOT seven years.

 

True, Ferrari should take "thier" responsibility more so after the many problems that appear in these DCT automatic transmissions.

Yes you may be right about the so called "wire" being a problem. However, I am leaning to believe it is more than a wire and more so, of a combination of issues as I stated earlier.

 

I have stated in earlier Chat posts that I have 5 track days on my 458. I run in track mode. Does the shifting malfunction seem to occur in Auto mode more frequently than manual mode.

 

What do you do when the 3 year warranty runs out?
Its a shame that F does not offer a manual anymore.

 

Hopefully the gearbox fix will be once and that's it, so it won't be so much an issue.

 

That's just wishful thinking since Getrag has not said anything about either the problem or potential solutions. And many times the first solution may not work.

Extended warranty is the answer.

 

Isn't the gearbox the same as in the California? Haven't heard many people if any having problems with theirs

 

Yes same box, or very nearly the same.

I'm on my third box.

 

My guess is that you have no real idea what the word "exponentially" actually means.

The force difference felt by the gear box on the Audi versus the Ferrari has to be related to the peak TQ numbers from the engines, respectfully. There is nothing other than linear math involved, not even quadradics, cubics, or quartics; let alone exponentials.

 

458 spyder is another possible answer

 

Ditto. Box should easily take that HP. That HP is no big deal for a modern box.

 

I totally agree!

 

I was told there would be no math.

 

Hi there.

Sorry for bumping up this old thread but I came across it in my search for more info on the Getrag DCT unit.

Has Ferrari/Getrag made any progress on the issues discussed? I believe Ferrari, like Mercedes SLS is using the 7DCL750 version of the Getrag box which means the box is 'rated' to take up to 750Nm of input torque. Therefore quite surprising to see issues reported in the 458. Of course the issues seem to be shift related rather than clutch or gear sets.

Presume the new F12 is using the same box. Would be interesting to hear how it is coping given the close to 700Nm it is churning out and the high hp and revs.

Does anyone know what the ratios are in the F12?

Is the box in the 458 challenge holding up well when tracked?

 

Does anyone know if their is a fix on the problems at hand? Looks like their are many having the trans exchanged and maybe a recall of some the latest on 2012 models. I am on the waiting list to order a 2013 model 458, If Gatrag or Ferrari is the problem will we get the fix befor the warranty is up. Any opinions ? THANKS FOR YOUR OPINION

 

Have similar problem half year before my 2010 California warranty expired. 10000km mileage, drove around 1 hour mountain road during hot summer, lost R and 2,4,6. After half hour cool off, became normal but already back to city.

Then a few month later drove around mountain road for 1 hour, the same thing happen. But this time it will show clutch overheat error, and stop half hour the message gone. But the problem and message show up after 10 minute mountain road again and continue this way whole day during mountain drive.

After getting back to city the next day. The problem go away and cannot duplicate easily with daily city drive. So it look like it need 1 hour mountain climbing in hot weather to have the problem started.

Leave my car in dealership when I am out of town for two month. The dealer seems finally able to hear some unusual noise for the clutch during test drive, and replaced the whole DCT under warranty right before it expired.

Do not have any problem for 6 months, even after two track days. So I will keep my fingers crossed.

 

Tracking the 458 voids your warranty, read the fine print

 

For your info, the part warranty for FNA installed parts including the DCT is 2 years.

Also when the DCT behaves oddly after being warmed up--that usually
means that it already is failing. Just a matter of time when it has problems when cold too.

 

Wonder why Fcar owners are tracking their cars less? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

Thank you for the info you've posted on voiding the warranty and on 458 transmission issues. I've been trying to decide between buying a 6MT F430 or a new 458. Now I'm leaning towards a 6MT F430. I have partial ownership of an F1 F430 and it's had transmission issues. I really don't want to deal with transmission issues ever again. The car that I buy won't be tracked at first but I may decide to track it one day. I don't want to have even a 1% chance of breaking the DCT when I drive the car hard on the street or track.

Plus gated shifters are pretty damn cool.

 

I have a 2010 458, and it does shift roughly when the car first starts. Call it a feature or whatever, but it doesn't meet my expectations. I test drove a 911 before I got the Ferrari, and the transmission felt much better on the 911. So, just seems to be a fact that Ferrari's transmission isn't as good, though if you run the Ferrari at full speed it shifts much better. I drove another 458 and it shifted better than mine. Problems are from 1st to 2nd to 3rd -- never above 3rd gear though. Their rep told me I should drive the car faster. I guess he knows because problems are greatly reduced at higher RPM's and with more torque.

But, the "problem" I'm having is that the car makes a loud buzzing sound which the dealer can't find and which occurs on about 30% or so of rides in the car when slowing down. On my way from 3rd to 1st, I often get a buzz like a cellonoid (sp) that can't quite pull. So, the car is in 3rd, buzzes for about 1 to 2 seconds on it's way to first, and then drops into first. Sometimes it goes 3, 2, 1 -- but today it went from 3 to 1. Of course, for a year that I've had the car the dealer can't find the problem, but the problem is there because I keep hearing it when I drive the car around.

Any thoughts on this one and what can be done, other than driving the car around more, to test out this part that I believe has been broken since I got the "Ferrari CPO" vehicle.

I'm out of warranty now, though I have followed this one through to the point where the dealer and Ferrari both seem fully annoyed with me. But, of course, the buzzing hasn't stopped.

 

does Lamborghini/Bugatti ecc do the same ?

 

Get ready. I mean, get ur wallet ready.

 

The Scud has an F1 sequential shift single clutch transmission.

The 458 has a dual clutch transmission. The technologies are completely different.

Your experience with your scud has nothing in common with the problems with german Getrag 458 box.