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  1. Peter K.

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    Was just under the assumption that it was not a rough runner but that could all be ignition, fuel, etc. But never could go wrong with a rebuild!
     
  2. joe sackey

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    Ive known George Evans for nigh-on 15 years, and have done a fair amount of parts business with him and have been delighted with the outcome. I know he owns, loves & knows Countachs. I own love & know Countachs too, and Ive had half-a-dozen of them restored/reconditioned/refurbished to various stages depending on what they need. Ive owned close to a dozen Countachs over the past 20 years covering every single variant built by the Lamborghini factory at Sant Agata from LP400 to Annivesario. I only humbly state this to illustrate that based on my very involved experience, $75,000 US spent on a Countach that doesn't involve cosmetics (paint/body, interior etc) is a staggering sum. Even if the entire engine & suspension was rebuilt from the bottom up, its still a staggering sum. Why to I say staggering? Because the same amount can buy a Countach LP500QV FI with needs! Perhaps if you could outline what $75,000 buys a Countach owner with GE, perhaps it will make more sense. Thank you in advance for already stating to Peter that you will share this because I do think it will be helpful. Geno & Blown Daytona have already begged the question, so there is indeed significant interest. If the car sells to cover this cost, then other owners will be inclined to consider bringing cars with needs up to par.
     
  3. TRScotty

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    Roy,

    After re-reading my post and the additional expenses you outlined here, I wanted to make it clear that I was in no way suggesting that you were off-base by asking what you believe to be the car's true value. Your inclusion of all the additioal costs make that point ever clearer.

    As Joe and Geno have stated, it must have been quite a needs list to accumulate $75k in repairs form Evans.

    Good luck, I hope you get every penny back +
     
  4. h2oskier

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    Save yourself 20k and sell it to me at the price we discussed ;)
    I think he just was talking about Maint recovery.
    You are wayyyy toooooo old to hear cars anymore
    it keeps many buyers away from many cars for sure.
     
  5. roytoy2003

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    LOL I can hear JUST FINE when your coming home at night when I run out of your wife's bedroom....
     
  6. roytoy2003

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    FYI..GE asked me if he could respond here on the thread..I said he can post and say what ever he wishes..and I am sure he has BETTER knowledge of the car then I do, I am NOT a Mechanic...I am a DRIVER!
     
  7. h2oskier

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    Damn it Roy....It's my bedroom too..........
     
  8. AIR4C 1

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    Um, no. I have owned 2 355's and they are not in the league of a Countach in any way!
     
  9. RPMMarcus

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    well.. if it is no secret what was paid to GE why not post a copy of the work what was done on the car, i bet you will have a very beautifull invoice for that money.. without cosmetic work it must be a complete rebuild of engine, gearbox and a full restauration of everything exept paint and interior...??? what was the history from that car is my next question then..
     
  10. RPMMarcus

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    To my it looks like a difficult story if it really costs $237.500..
     
  11. gtf40

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    Just wanted to let everyone know that the actual engine rebuild on this car was $26k plus remove and reinstall. When we received the car, it ran terrible, very low on power, it ran so bad that we had a problem getting it off of the transport. We did a complete engine rebuild and a lot of special work to this engine to make it one of the best running cars out there, oversize euro spec forged pistons, stainless steel valves, bronze guides, 17 angle valve job, some head porting, oil system mod, stainless qs performance exhaust system, ceramic coated headers, msd ignition conversion, rebuild and modify the carbs, kevlar clutch system, transmission rebuild, stainless braided oil and fuel lines, new Pirelli tires, etc. etc. Roy also had us do a lot of other mechanical work to the car to bring it to tip-top shape, which is what pushed his bill higher. Roy wanted this car to be the best of the best, the mechanics of this car is one of the top 10 downdrafts we have done. Ask Roy to take you for a ride and show you how a downdraft should run. This car is awesome.

    George Evans
    Evans Automotive Repair Inc.
     
  12. joe sackey

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    Thanks George.
     
  13. RPMMarcus

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    thanks, impressive work done, there is no doubt about the quality of the work, here 26K for the enginework looks not expensive with all new pistons, work and other parts! I believe it will go like a rocket! What exacly means the 17 angle valve job?
     
  14. Peter K.

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    #64 Peter K., Mar 27, 2012
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    I am confused.
    26k (plus about 12hr+ for removal and install) as George stated but then says "Roy also had us do a lot of other mechanical work to the car to bring it to tip-top shape, which is what pushed his bill higher."
    49k worth (the amount of 2 more rebulds)?
    Was the bill 75k or 26k????? Did the 26k include the statement above "that pushed the bill high"?
    Come on, this is becoming bull****. If it is being discussed, let it be discussed in clear terms.
     
  15. roytoy2003

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    #65 roytoy2003, Mar 27, 2012
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    As a comparrision, what was the cost, including the price of your car, to get it to where it is now..?

    And gives us a description of your car and opinion of its rating on the 1-5 scale as refered to here in these threads..it would be intresting to compare....
     
  16. Bradjohnston

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    As a former 355 owner... that is HARDLY the case.. One of the worst, most non exciting cars I have ever owned..
     
  17. RPMMarcus

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    #67 RPMMarcus, Mar 27, 2012
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    Exacly what i was thinking Peter, if a complete engine rebuild including removal and install costs "only" 26.000 then what was done for this other 49.000, a few bearings and seals in the gearbox and some oil lines will not bring that bill up to 75K...i don't get it.. Is there a new leather interior installed?? New shocks eh battery.. well, i would say lets post whats on the invoice, i think if you start a thread and talk about figures then go all the way
     
  18. Champboat/Champcar

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    A Complete rebuild of the transmission must have cost a bit , my guess $ 10K , parts and labor ? maybe a little more or less ., its got to take alot of hours to do that .
     
  19. Peter K.

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    $106,000.
    Rating: That's really personal opinion...I guess close to a 2. You'd have to ask those who have seen it.
     
  20. RPMMarcus

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    Agree, but still a hole of 39.000 then, ok new shocks, new rubbers new bla bla bla but 49.000 in total??
     
  21. RPMMarcus

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    Peter, what work was done for that amount?
     
  22. blown daytona

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    I think Roy got caught telling used car salesman stories :D I think he threw the 75K # out there to justify the asking price. I could be wrong though :confused:
     
  23. Redlambo

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    I do not wish to ruffle to many feathers here however it seems to me like there is a bit of a witch hunt going on with exactly what Roy paid for this car and how much money he spent getting it correct. While Roy did start the thread, he did title it "Accepting Offers" and he is a paying advertiser. IMO opinion it really is no one business on how much he spent and where he spent it. Most of us know that Lamborghini parts add up quick, how quick? Lets do some fast math on it.

    Transportation to and from GE --------- $2,000.00 (it didn't get there on its own)
    Kevlar clutch assembly new --$10,000.00 or rebuilt $5,000.00 ? I might be way off on both
    MSD Ignition installed -------- $1,500.00
    SS exhaust installed --------- $5,000.00
    Coat headers ---------------- $2,000.00
    rebuild and mod carbs -------- $5,000.00??
    replace all fuel and oil lines ---- $5,000.00
    R&R tires and wheel alignment - $5,000.00
    Rebuild transmission ----------- $3,000.00+
    oil system mods --------------- $1,000.00+
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    That totals --------------------$39,500.00 with the new clutch assembly or maybe $34,500.00 with an exchange if I am close.

    You add a few more items into the mix:
    AC receiver dryer, expansion valve, freon a new compressor.
    CV boots, headliner, brakes, shocks, battery, starter, alternator, ect...

    I can see getting yet another $49,000.00 onto the bill.
    Lamborghini parts are not getting any cheaper guys.

    Just my 2 cents. Not trying to take side just putting some numbers out there.

    Sincerely Vic
     
  24. roytoy2003

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    #74 roytoy2003, Mar 27, 2012
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    MY oh MY..so for years I get all kinds of grief about how bad my english is etc etc..

    AND out OF ALL of you here..not one of you read where it said 75K spent with GE..

    Can one of you great "keyboard Cowboys" that has a education better then my 11 th grade point out where it says $75K on "Engine rebuil;d"..? NOPE it says TOTAL spent..

    So I guess my english is not that bad after all, at least I comprehend and understand it..

    But so you can all go back to your regular day job's..here are the reciepts..
    NOW, you will notice that $67K was spent total with GE..then shippping, wheels, tires etc etc as I posted, right at $75K into the car..

    You will also notice, when it was advertised by "another" person from here, as being "special" no dis-appointm,ents, ready to go...well it was not....it had work done at "another" shop for almost $6k..which turned out to be a waste of money and just not accomplished a thing..

    so it went to the CORRECT service facility GE as my choice..and I could not be happier for the money I spent..this car is the best of the best and I am happy to put it up against any other one out there.

    Now, I guess the next thing will be "Wow-you got wripped off" OK, well I dont think so..and if you think so, dont take yur car to GE...take it some other place you want to throw good money after bad and not have the correct out come.
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  25. roytoy2003

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