Is that with the cost of the vehicle it-self and repairs..or just repairs..? Can you share with us on the open forum what was done and by who..?
Ruffle all you want..after all thats what needs to happen here.. a few of the supposed controllers of this market need to be "B**H" slapped into reality..OUT of their own world of self gratification..
I'm sorry, more closer to 110k. That includes the car Vic, My thoughts are those prices are on the high side but that's not to say some will charge that. Your trans price is great though, I have no idea but 3k sounds like a bargian on a lambo! It kills me the 5k carbs. We all have to laugh because they are simple Webers, a nothing carb and ez to rebuild and sync. A 12 year old can do it
Thanks for the info Vic, i don't care what Roy paid for the car, its not my business but i was just shocked of that 75000K bill without cosmetic work or tyres, it was his post so i think he can live with it if people are going to ask about that post and the work what was done for that money. now other people are giving the answers... and he is not responding...anyway, GE made that car perfect and this car is an absolute superb car
Yeah, about 110k with the car. Roy I got my car for a song and at the right time. But that biatch was in rough shape. It is well documented on both forums that Wil Degroot did all the work on this car. 26k in 2004 and around 30k in 2010/11. 04 was engine out, kev clutch, cam time, head gaskets, rear main, carbs, alt, elect, hoses, ss lines, and ton of odds and ends, I forget right now. 11 was body, paint, dash, wheel bear, some control arms and joints etc, weather strip, starter 2x, carbs, fluids, and much more.
I said $3,000.00 on the transmission because of the low mileage. If there was any significant mileage I would have been closer to $5,000.00. As far as the carb's, yes they are simple however they still require time to disassemble, clean, rebuild and modify. I went on the high side because of the modifications?? Its an unknown in my book. Basic rebuild of carb's may be more in line with $2,500.00 as it takes time, 6 carb's times a minimum of 4 hrs each, if everything comes apart without breaking. Again just my .02 as I have many friends in this thread, you being one of them. Sincerely Vic
The only thing I do not like about Evans bill is 3k just to remove the engine and put it back in. Even a $100 per hour, that's 30 hour which a no no. I could be wrong on the labor as I am use to $85 per/hr with Degroot. I have personally seen 6hrs to take out and 8hrs in....maybe a few hours more in total
before this "carb" discussion gets out of hand, we charge 250.00 per carb plus the major carb kit price to rebuild the carbs, total 1500.00 labor plus kits. this includes the carb modifications for performance and the hot start problem. george
OK you got me on the carbs. LOL However if you look at the rest of my prices and compare them to the list I am pretty close. I went out on a limb and fortunately do not feel to embarrassed in doing so. Sincerely Vic
yes we charge 3k to R&R the engine but there is a lot more involved in that charge. we do not use impact guns to rip the engine in and out like most flat rate guys, we use hand tools so not to damage valuble components. there is alot of final running and adjustments that are done before and after test drives and tweeking to get the car to its best, every downdraft requires and gets a second air box removel and final carb readjustment before leaving. we always spend more then 30 hours in this complete process. if you want the best job possible it always take a little bit longer. george
actually redlambo's general guesstimate of charges is pretty close, the 44 dcnf carbs are smaller and newer and easier to rebuild and modify thus less time. george
The shops I have seen do not use air tools. Shame on those who do. Your R&R is more than just R&R. Thanks for the clarification.
thanks peter for your affirmation of the bill except for the 3k. are you sure you were charged 26k for only engine out, kev clutch, cam time, head gaskets, rear main, carbs, alt, elect, hoses, ss lines, and ton of odds and ends? that does not seem right. we did a complete performance engine rebuild and updates for a little more then that. george
Thanks for all the updates George. God knows you are a busy man!!!! 30 hrs for R&R seems like a great deal to me since my local dealer quoted me 40 hours @ ($120 an hour = $4800) to R&R my my engine when I had my clutch done 2 years ago! Mike
R&R includes the cost of the set of tires. Have you priced a complete set of new Pirelli tires? Can you find a complete set of new Pirelli tires? If so they are going to cost you all of $3,000.00+ add dressing up the rims, mounting, balancing and wheel alignment and you might be lucky end up at $4,000.00 I chose to error on this higher side and threw in an extra $1,000.00 as often times you cannot find a set and you will pay extra to have them shipped from wherever.
Umm in my humble opinion 75k is not that far out to spend on the car. But also the seller has to be realistic no matter how much you put into your car you will not always get it back. I dont know Countach prices but i have owned a Pantera and let me tell you i had way more money put into restoration and mods then i got back when i sold it. My Pantera was a mint car but i still lost about 50k when i sold it. You have to realise that all cars are money pits. Unless you own a really rare car. I agree it might be a no questions car mechanicaly but is it mint cosmetic wise. So the main question is is the $240k or so the owner has in the car in line with what these cars sell for if yes i dont see a probem if not then the seller is not being realistic
I don't have a dog in this fight but I'd like to hear more about the "17 angle valve job". 3 angles are typical, 5 if you're really fussy.
You can just count your lucky stars and me...that I bought this car and not someone when you had it advertised..they would NOT have been happy when the car or you once it was delivered to them, so I guess I saved you alot of grief. YES YES YES, of course you were "just" passing on info that was provided to you by the seller, so as a "broker" you bare no responsability in the correctness of the words of advertisment........