Wake-up Stefano!

Trulli faster than Alonso ... hilarious. Trulli has been always useless.

Pete

 

...Perhaps you missed a lot of g.p last decade......specially the first part of the season in 2004...

 

And he got a pole with a Prost. There was a time when he looked like the real deal.

 

I'd much rather have Flavio in the team. He's knows how to make a winning team, pushes the boundaries on the legal side of things to get his team to win, he's got character. Stefano is a paper pushing ***** who has been saying the same **** since 2009 ''we must improve quickly''. All that he's been doing is getting the team to fail.

He needs to get out, Luca needs to STFU about his team because he's a big headed turd kicking the old shu out and disliking Todt for whatever reason. He disbanded the most winningest team just so he could get his way...

Give me Flavio any day, he's a guy that doesn't take ****!

 

Flavio can stay on the yacht and cheat on his wife No need to see him in F1 again.

 

" He's knows how to make a winning team, pushes the boundaries on the legal side of things to get his team to win, he's got character. "

I´m sorry but we must be talking about diferent persons!!!
Sending a driver to crash against a wall, in order to bring the safety car out just after the other driver of the team had pitted is hardly "legal". Also the 1994 benetton had a couple of things that probably werent legal...and deliberatly prejudicing a second driver in order to promote his first one, does not show any character at all.

 

Just setting the record straight.
From the 2004 season:

Australia:
grid Alonso-5 race Alonso-3
Trulli- 9 Trulli-7

Malasya:
grid Alonso-19 race Alonso-7
Trulli- 8 Trulli-5

Bahrain:
grid Alonso-16 race Alonso-6
Trulli- 7 Trulli-4

San Marino:
grid Alonso-6 race Alonso-4
Trulli- 9 Trulli-5

Spain:
grid Alonso-8 race Alonso-4
Trulli- 4 Trulli-3

Monaco:
grid Alonso-3 race Alonso-ret
Trulli- 1 Trulli-1

France:
grid Alonso-2 race Alonso-2
Trulli- 5 Trulli-4

So, untill this part of the season, TRulli had out qualified Alonso 4-3 and had 24 points to Alonso´s 14.
In France, Trulli lost third place to Barrichelo in the last lap, and Briatore has a hugediscussion with jarno at the end of the race....(can´t recall nothing like that when Alonso crashed from 2º place at Mónaco, when he was trying to keep up with jarno). The real problem was that Alonso was the new golden boy for Briatore, and he needed to make him look like the best next thing after Shummi, and Trulli was spoiling his plans by beating him in the same car...after France, Trulli was over, somehow he lost pace (Or better saying, his car did!!!) i think he did´t mke another single point ans was sacked after Monza....he had already signes with Toyota for next year.

 

+1

 

Yup.
Another Ferrari goof. Signing Alonso

 

I´m just tired of this "we need a saviour". Now the saviour is Flavio.

Last year, the problem was that Italians can´t do aerodynamics, they put a Brit on charge and things got worse. Now they have to sack Domenicalli and put Flavio. If Flavio fails too (his latest years at Renault sucked big time, but it seems that nobody remembers that) you will start asking for Luca´s head (the guy who already was winning in Formula 1 when most of us still were using diapers). And if that doesn´t work either, what?

 

I think that all of us who follow Ferrari and f.1 for some time (for me ist´s more than 30 years now) know that there are always ups and downs...and some times, the downs are very loooooong. remenber 82 to 99? We all knew Shmmi/Brawn/Todt golden era was going to finish someday....like lauda´s did...they still managed to keep winning with Giile and Sheckter, just like Kimi and Felipe but eventually it wen down the gutter. To me this particular fase reminds me of the early 90s, after Prost nearly did it, the team entered into a turmoil, Fiorio got Sacked, and it was total chaos!!! The only thing worth it within the team was jean alesi, the poor guy got crap car after crap car and still drove the hell out of them, putting on a show for everyone. I feel we are at the same stage, crap car and a team that simply is not united behing a strong leader. Stefano is probably very competent at something, but he is hardly a leader. He is too much of a nice guy for that. Luca made some bad decisions but still, he is responsible for some of the best periods Ferrari ever had...i hope he wiil sort something out.

 

Martin Withmarsh position is less questioned than Domenicalli and he has won the same: NOTHING. Even worse: Ferrari has been closer to winning a WDC than McLaren.

I wonder what they´re saying at McLarenchat?

 

Too early to write of this year's aero changes. The hastily redesigned exhausts mandated by the FIA have put them on the back foot.

 

Well that must be the only good season that Trulli(aweful) ever had.

Sorry never rated him at all. He could qualify well but that was all.
Pete

 

When you look at the dark side, careful you must be. For the dark side looks back.

 

Fredrich "Yoda" Nietzsche?

 

Perhaps Nigel´s is a more valid point....

nigel newsletter opinion Why well miss Barrichello and Trulli

"When Trulli was teamed with Alonso at Renault though there were qualifying days when Fernando, admittedly earlier in his career, couldn’t live with him, and at Monaco in 2004 – the only Grand Prix Jarno was to win – he crashed trying to keep up with him. No one could have beaten Trulli that day, and it pleases me that at least – unlike the remarkably gifted Chris Amon – he will always have a Grand Prix victory to his name.
That said, Trulli was like many drivers – notably his compatriot and sometime team-mate Giancarlo Fisichella – in that in a race, particularly if his car were not up to snuff, he would ‘go to sleep’. I remember watching the 2005 Italian Grand Prix from the Renault pit, complete with headphones plugged in to the drivers and race engineers: while Alonso, running second to Juan Pablo Montoya’s McLaren, maintained a relentless speed, on it every lap, Fisichella’s engineer, Alan Permane, repeatedly had to gee him up, tell him to pick up the pace because so-and-so was closing on him. Significantly Fisichella, whenever told to speed up, at once responded, so it was there within him; left to his own devices, though, he wasn’t making call on it…
I’m not criticising only these two, for there are many like them, but Trulli indeed fell prey to this weakness. If his car was ‘right’ for him, he would fly; if not, there were signs almost that he would lose interest, and simply drive around. A great shame, this, for his natural ability was way higher than Fisichella’s – way higher than most drivers’ – and he should have come out of Formula 1 with a lot of victories.
Jarno’s exit was significant in another way, too. Given that Tonio Liuzzi was not retained by HRT, Trulli was going to be the only Italian driver in F1 for 2012. Now, for the first time since 1969, there are no representatives from the country, and that’s a great sadness, not least because there are many, myself included, who have traditionally looked upon Italy as the natural homeland of motor racing. When I was a little kid, first falling in love with the sport, the teams of consequence were Ferrari and Maserati, and thus my earliest memories are of red cars winning.
nigel newsletter opinion Why well miss Barrichello and Trulli
It could be argued that not since the death of Alberto Ascari, in 1955, has Italy produced a really great Grand Prix driver. There’s no logical reason why this should be so, but while several – Castellotti, Musso, Bandini, Patrese, Alboreto – were capable of a great performance on a given day, none ever reached the very top level. Of all those to come along since Ascari, it may be that Trulli had the greatest natural gift – to watch him on a qualifying lap at Monte Carlo, blindingly quick, effortlessly deft, was a joy for the ages. Not only that, he is a delightful fellow, an old-fashioned gent, and I will much miss his presence in our sport.
In Italy, after the debacle of Melbourne, they are clamouring for Felipe Massa to be replaced in the Ferrari team forthwith – harsh, but perhaps unsurprising. One name suggested in the Italian press as a possible replacement is Sergio Perez, the other Jarno Trulli. Alonso and Trulli in the same team again… it probably won’t happen, but wouldn’t it be fascinating if it did?

 

So Ferrari is currently the best of the rest right behind the top running teams. Why is that so bad???? It's not like the leading teams are crappy organizations. does Ferrari have some God-given right to be the best, all of the time.

 

Having the talent has never been enough.
Determination and persistence make champions.
Among the current crop is there anyone who has shown more of these qualities than Alonso has?

 

I don´t think alonso showed any more than vettel with the same number of g.p behind them.
Obviously we all apreciate differente things in drivers, if not so, there would never be discussions about if Prost was better than Senna or vice-versa. I for once never liked any of the 2!!! although to me Senna was better than Prost. The thing i rate more in a driver it´s his natural talent. Speed and car control is what makes me root for a driver (Wich rarely happens since i only root for Ferraris, and Ferrari drivers, although not all of them)....I guess Jean Alesi was the exception, even after he left the scuderia.
Alonso is very good, but i simply don´t get excited with his driving..(and the fact i despize him as a person does not help)....i guess i always prefered the lazy/brilliant sort of guy, that can do something amazing with whatever car he has, without having to work too much for that...rather than the very professional robot that is always very good but never quite as good as the super talented. That´s why i like Kimi..he is to me the most gifted driver in present f.1....and vettel is also very impressive.....of course, hamilton is a blast to watch but, a little more brain wouldn´t hurt him, and everytime he opens his mouth..it´s a disgrace!!!.
Truth is, for me, the perfect driver as to be a racer, like Gilles and Alesi, to me they where the ones i most admired and liked to watch, at present, no one even gets close...and it´s a shame, The actual f.1 field is very, very good but nobody as that spark that makes me jump from my sofa....of course, this is just my opinion, and i´m sure many feel diferently.

 

To each his own.
Fast guys are a dime a dozen in F1. What separates the sheep from the goats is determination and strength of character. Alonso has done more with less than any other driver in recent memory.
And done it in an era where having the fastest car is more important than ever before. In the old days a talented driver had a much easier time winning in a second tier car. Today attrition is almost a nonfactor and not having the latest tweak can make most drivers utterly uncompetitive.