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  1. Peter K.

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    #2126 Peter K., Apr 24, 2012
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    Just an example of what my step father did. After experimenting the final look is so much better than the first 3.
    The final scoop version utitlized the tops of the old fenders! And you can also see in the final painted version that there is a hump between the 2 scoops.
    Costly experiment but worth.
    Therefore I KNOW something nice can be done on an Espada.
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    Well, first thing first...might need a motor out service. Old fuel lines and hose must be replaced. I like the brown but not sure the mustard interior.
    Remember, you get what you pay for.

    Does anyone have a picture of nice one with this color combo?
     
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    They might be calling that mustard but ...

    My car, early in this thread has senape (mustard) interior and it doesn't look like that.
    That's some sort of green. I've seen it before.

    The car is a big gamble. If nice well running original Espadas were regularly $50K then you might take a chance. I'm guessing this car hasn't run in a very long time. It reminds me a bit of the car Laespada just bought though it's so dirty it's hard to tell if it will need a lot of cosmetic help as well.

    Lots of work ahead.
     
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    My Countach has Senape too, love it. That car is not senape. I wonder if it the same color as that orange Espada on ebay a year or 2 ago for 70k?
     
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    Yeah maybe, though that "seemed" more green. Maybe it's a camera and lighting issue?

    The boot on the shifter and the wood knob look pretty decent so maybe it's really cherry inside?

    Crappy set of photos. It does say the paint is pretty bad.

    Gullwing offers them $14K, washes it and then puts it up for $18,995 - light restoration.

    It's certainly worth $14K if there's not something horrible broken in the engine or tans.
     
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    I see GW offering the 14, but advert at minimum 25.

    I personally think it's worth more than 14. Not 24 though. IMO it's a lot better than the 17k chevy motored hunk they had for such a long time. And I even considered that one, since I know a guy that has a spare Espada '12'er.

    Are you close enough to see this puppy?
     
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    Oh I expect it'll be gone soon, probably tomorrow with a cash offer unless there's something we're not seeing.

    The one with the Chevy was a S1 though I have seen it now that the new owner has resurrected it and it too has paint issues.

    At the moment I can't get out to see it until next week but yes it's about 45 minutes away from me.

    They should wash the damn thing and put up a bunch more pictures.
     
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    Couldn't agree more.
     
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    I have several used Espada parts for sale, call for your needs. 1 402 731 1181 Craig
     
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    Small world, hi Craig. You are the one I was referring to with the Espada motor a couple of posts ago.
     
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    #2138 LAEspada, May 3, 2012
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    Just received a large package of documents and receipts from the previous owner of my car. When he imported it in 1975, he converted it to run on propane for a few years to avoid EPA emissions testing. Here is a Polaroid of the rather bizarre looking distribution plenum they installed. It looks like an alien virus has attacked the engine.
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    Cool, so you have pictures! I wonder what happened to all of that stuff?

    Of course today you'd be arrested as a terrorist with an IED for having a big propane tank in the rear of the car.

    I remember the Bugatti EB110 with a dual fuel setup that included propane. It's owned by a local guy in PA.

    Do you think the Espada actually worked worth a damn like that?
     
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    very neat in a frightening sort of way?

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    +1 slick way to get out of EPA!
     
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    He said it was down a bit on power (obviously, propane has less energy than gasoline). He also had to rebuild the engine two years later and replace two pistons. Coincidence? It may have leaned it out and burned the pistons. Maybe, who knows? I'm rebuilding that engine now and the two pistons his shop put in were not factory. They were, in fact, junk.

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    Actually propane has a higher octane level then the best premium gas.
    Last time I looked into it I believe it was somewhat the equivalent to 104 octane.
     
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    Why are the surprises never good ones ...
     
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    Octane only measures the the propensity of the fuel to autoignite. The important figure is heat energy, or BTU as commonly measured. A gallon of propane yields around 91,000 BTU while a gallon of gasoline yields about 114,000 BTU, so you need to burn more propane to yield the same heat energy.

    Fuel yields heat energy when carbon atoms are separated forcefully under heat and pressure, and with oxygen as a catalyst, from the hydrocarbon molecule, so the less carbon in the fuel's molecule (or, the "lighter" the fuel is) the less energy is yielded. Which is why your camping propane stove cooks faster than your home natural gas stove, and why a diesel engine burning heavy, carbon-dense fuel-oil gets better mileage than a gasoline engine burning lighter, more highly distilled (less carbon) gasoline, or even lighter LPG, or still lighter natural gas.
     
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPdd2QEvd0w[/ame]


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    Nice acting Gary but are you sure you want drive like that after the restoration?
     
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    A local PBS show Treasures of New York had a feature piece on the work of the famous architect Costas Kondylis who has designed a staggering number of buildings in NYC and also works very closely with Trump.

    The interesting part for car guys is that they showed his dark blue SIII with stainless bumpers but also having the overrides sitting in his garage. Later they showed him backing it out of the garage. He looks a bit feeble moving around these days which might explain why it's a rare automatic version.
     

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