1955 two-cylinder F1 engine

Would welcome any sound info source regarding the two-cyl. 2500 cc. engine designed by Lampredi on 1955 aimed to fight M-B on torquey circuits. Apparently it was dubbed Tipo 116 F. Thank you.

 

Manel, if you send me a PM with your email address I will send you some scanned material about the twin-cylinder engine. I don't have time to type it up right now.
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Mount it on the front of a Morgan 3 wheeler!

That looks like a cool engine.

Regards,

Art S.

 

If I recall correctly, they never put that engine in a car because they couldn't build a dyno that could take the vibrations. The Morgan 3 wheeler would have been really interesting if that's true.

 

David Clark at one time owned this.

Where is it now?

 

Info received. Thank you Jeff.

Re. vroomgt.
Have just found that on early 70's, Anthony Bamford bought from the Ferrari works a truck-load of bits and pieces including some 30 engines and assorted parts. Anthony mechanics worked on them during years and on 1975, they apparently digged the forgotten "twin" out from the huge pile of discarded Maranello brainchilds.

 

I don't know if it's the same engine or not, but there is a 2 cyl engine featured on the Ferrari Victory By Design DVD.

 

The engine in post #2 does not look like a 2 cylinder engine. Why would the valve covers need to be so LONG if they are only covering ONE cylinder on each bank? Do they mean 2 cylinders on EACH bank?

 

Oh, I don't know - the perspective may make it look longer than it is. You need length enough for the cam gears and 4 valves per BIG cyl - each displaced 1250cc! It looks like a in-line twin, not a V. I've no idea what the shorter two towers are - ballance shafts?

 

There are not two banks of cylinders. You are seeing two cam shaft covers.
This is a DOHC 4 valve engine. Separate covers for each cam.

Some of Ferrari's 4 cylinder engines used the same design elements.

 

Arlie,

The engine looks like an inline DOHC 2 cylinder. These are obviously problematic as either the pistons move up and down at the same time so the firing is even, or they move opposite each other (a la John Deere!) to keep the engine from hopping up and down, but uneven firing. It surprises me Ferrari would even bother with such an engine!

-steve

 

If it is a 2 cylinder, then I would assume that the 4 ports on the left side are the intakes for a pair of 2BBL carbs (Weber?). It looks like an exhaust port on the right hand side. Looks like no exhaust manifold, just an open pair of exhaust ports barely visable.

 

That's what it looks like to me too.

 

Makes sense. there is a photo of this engine in old Sports Car World Magazine (Australian) from the Eighties, the story is about David Clark.

I dont have it handy, but have it somewhere!

 

There is another built in the nineties? Experimental engine that was built by Ferrari apprentices I think.

It was an exhibit in the Galleria.

 

As someone already mentioned, it would be interesting to find out what the two small "towers" for lack of a better word , are used for. Anyone know?

Darrell.

 

They are breathers. In a 360 degree twin the pistons pump engine displacement air volumes through the crankcase.

--Carter

 

I've heard this type of engine referred to as a 'Thumper.'

Does anyone know how fast they intended to spin the thing?

Regards,

Art S.

 

According creditable sources the output was some 160 hp @ 5200 rpm with a compressio ratio of 13:1, breathing through two special 42 DCOD Webers. As everyone knows, the contemporary 256 F1 straight-six intended for fast tracks claimed some 215 hp @ 7000 rpm.

 

Ferrari bothered to try many engine configurations that were commonly thought to be problematic or "not worth all the trouble" at the time. Let's take the whole V-12 range in general and large (3-litre and 3.5 litre) 4-cylinder engines as examples.

 

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Wow, from six years ago! I'll see if I can find the reference and send it to you later today, OK?

 

hey Jeff,

thanks for prompt reply, i was telling my son about this engine but counldnt recall
which magazine had featured it. I have the magazine buried somewhere, so now the
big search is on......


www.keicarshop.com

 

FOUND!!!....thats the first time i found something i was looking for without tearing the house apart at least 3 times......anyway,

its featured in the magazine " FERRARI....A WHEELS and SPORTS CAR WORLD ",
" FERRARI'S MYSTERY TWIN".


Jeff, where did you get the picture on page 1?, that picture is from another source


p.s I'm looking for an early 308, complete or rolling chassis

 

the gods are with me today.....,

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