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! BREAKING NEWS ! LE MANS:2014 LMP1 Regulations Announced !

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  1. Formula 1

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    Now that the books have been thrown out the window will Farrari finally get back into Le Mans?

    The Automobile Club de l'Ouest, along with the FIA, announced Thursday the new technical regulations for LMP1 cars, which will go into effect in 2014.

    Focusing heavily on efficiency, cost reduction and safety, the new-look category will comprise entirely of closed-top prototypes, with a reduced weight of 830 kg (850 kg for non-hybrids) and 10 cm narrower than the current-spec machines.

    There will also be an improvement in cockpit visibility, following a series of high-speed accidents over recent years involving traffic, with the driver now sitting higher in the car and further forward. It has resulted in a 90 mm taller cockpit/greenhouse area.

    Another change comes with a simplified nose element that will be adjustable to each specific downforce configuration, instead of having separate bodywork for different aerodynamic configurations.

    While wheel tethers will also become mandatory, along with lateral protection panels and a rear crash box, manufacturers will now have two choices of bodywork cut-outs, either above the wheels (as introduced this year) or on the inside fenders (new for 2014). The dorsal fin will remain on the top-tier prototypes.

    Perhaps the biggest change, however, comes with the engine rules, as there will be no limit in cubic capacity for the conventional power plants. Air restrictors and turbo pressures have been eliminated and replaced by a fuel meter, which restricts the allocation of gasoline or diesel according to a predetermined level.

    The ACO targets up to a 30 percent reduction in fuel consumption with its new system, which sees five different base configurations, largely dependent on the size of the hybrid systems.

    For example: privateers, which are limited to 5.5-liter capacity engines, will be allocated 4.95 liters of gasoline (or 3.99 liters of diesel) per a lap of Le Mans. Fuel capacity would be limited to 64.4 liters for gasoline (53.3 liters for diesel), roughly a 11-14 percent decrease over 2012 fuel capacity levels.

    In the situation of hybrids, four different sizes of energy recovery systems will be permitted, ranging from 2 to 8 MJ of power. It's a significant increase over the current hybrid regulations, which are limited to 0.5 MJs. In effect, a larger system will be required to be more fuel efficient.

    Of note, all factory entries will be required to compete with hybrid systems, which will be homologated on a seasonal basis, eliminating evolutions over the course of a year.

    "Thanks to in-depth work and excellent collaboration, today, the ACO and the FIA have announced a unique set of extremely innovative technical regulations for 2014 that are in phase with the times we live in," said Sir Lindsay Owen-Jones, FIA Endurance Commission President.

    "It should encourage the development of powerful and spectacular cars and also the development of technologies that have real meaning for the everyday motorist. Private teams haven't been forgotten either with simple but competitive alternatives."

    The LMP1 technical regulations will be used in the FIA World Endurance Championship and American Le Mans Series beginning in 2014. A one-year grandfathering period for current-spec machinery is being evaluated by the ACO for the first year.

    http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/le-mans-2014-lmp1-regulations-announced/
     
  2. LightGuy

    LightGuy Three Time F1 World Champ
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    YES !

    Let the best automotive engineers work on efficiency with a clean slate as opposed to the obsession with turning as much fuel into HP in a given size engine.
     
  3. Ferraripilot

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    Very interesting. 5.5L privateer engined teams should provide for some fantastic entries. 4.95L per lap is going to be tough.......
     
  4. JeremyJon

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    agreed the fuel use will be tough, but not impossible ....i like that the new changes will open up the field, hopefully attract some new teams in too
     
  5. Formula 1

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    -Constructors Most Wins-

    Rank Constructor (Wins) Years

    1. Germany Porsche (16) 1970, 1971, 1976, 1977, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1983,
    1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1994[2], 1996, 1997[3], 1998

    2. Germany Audi (11) 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011,
    2012*

    3. Italy Ferrari (9) 1949, 1954, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965

    4. United Kingdom Jaguar (7) 1951, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1988, 1990

    5. United Kingdom Bentley (6) 1924, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 2003

    6. Italy Alfa Romeo (4) 1931, 1932, 1933, 1934
    United States Ford 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969

    8. France Matra-Simca (3) 1972, 1973, 1974
    France Peugeot 1992, 1993, 2009

    10. France Lorraine-Dietrich (2) 1925, 1926
    France Bugatti 1937, 1939
    Germany Mercedes-Benz 1952, 1989[4]

    13. France Chenard & Walcker (1) 1923
    United Kingdom Lagonda 1935
    France Delahaye 1938
    France Talbot-Lago 1950
    United Kingdom Aston Martin 1959
    United Kingdom Mirage 1975
    France Renault-Alpine 1978
    France Rondeau 1980
    Japan Mazda 1991
    United Kingdom McLaren 1995
    Germany BMW 1999

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans_winners
     
  6. tifosi12

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    Wrong forum.
     
  7. Fast_ian

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    +1 At last it seems they're going in the right direction. Woo-hoo!

    Seems to me that Scuderia Glickenhaus P4/5CM *must* now be entered in 2014! - He's got one hell of head start with it and hopefully it won't be restricted to sucking thru a straw anymore either! Maybe Ferrari will now come a knockin'! Forza Jim!

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  8. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #8 Fast_ian, Jun 17, 2012
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    Yes it is, but in fairness the OP was questioning if Ferrari will be tempted to return.

    FWIW, my answer is no - Their plate is already full with F1. I would hope they may be tempted to give Jim and a few other privateers some support, but given their track record I'm not holding my breath.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  9. Formula 1

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    My Bad Andreas :D
     
  10. Turbopanzer

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    Proving once again that the world wants new technology and innovative thinking while we in the USA get "contrived parity"! Excellent news for inventors and engineering types to blow the lid off technology. This will make for great racing and ideas. I look forward to it and hope U.S. engineers get involved !!
     
  11. Formula 1

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    Indeed I can only imagine what each manufacture has in mind come 2014. If where lucky perhaps F1 will stop the nonsense and do the same.
     
  12. Napolis

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    P 4/5 Competizione M (KERS) does better than that today.
     
  13. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Perhaps someone will Sponsor us to build a 2014 Ferrari Powered P 4/5 LMP 1 to these new regulations...
     
  14. Turbopanzer

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    I would hope they would. As a former Indy Car mechanic I believe that this form of racing is nesessary to keep technology moving forward. If your team is up to the challenge(and I don't doubt that for one minute) then U.S. sponsors need to get on the stick and stop sponsoring the nonsense we call racing and promote teams like yours to race at LeMans. This year's race was a good one and I expect by 2014 to see a flood of entrys with ideas that can change the world. I hope for your success in this matter!!!
     
  15. JeremyJon

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    that's pretty impressive ....is it only with KERS that you're able to achieve that?



    hmm? ....sell a fleet of p4/5c for privateers, to fund a p4/5 lmp1, and then you'd have a small p4/5 army at 2014 le mans :D :)
     
  16. zxcv

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    Porsche and Ferarri will join LMP1 in 2014?
     
  17. Turbopanzer

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    Porsche....I do not doubt. Ferrari.......??????
     
  18. Far Out

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    It's funny, last year the head of Audi Motorsport told me with a totally straight face that they'd never ever consider hybrid cars for Le Mans... now they've won with one this year and it will be mandated from 2014 on!

    (Actually, that fits quite well with my schedule for being finished with the Doctor degree... maybe I should apply with one of the manufacturers...)
     
  19. Turbopanzer

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    You should. We need more people that innovate and create than we do "fairness". May your doctorate be a success and your dreams realized !
     
  20. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes with KERS we're much more fuel efficient.
     
  21. tomgt

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    Just back home from Le Mans

    ACO gets lots of money from Audi, Audi media circus.
    I have been to each race since 2000. LMP1 is boring.

    BoP is what Le Mans needs!

    LMP2 and GT is very nice!
     
  22. Bas

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    Had the Toyota's not crashed it would have been more entertaining. They where on a fantastic run and could well have been a winner :(
     
  23. Daytonafan

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    Toyota looks to have had the raw pace to give the Audis a proper challenge, but the Audi's were doing twelve laps on a tank the Toyota never managed more than 11.
     
  24. Turbopanzer

    Turbopanzer F1 World Champ

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    In any case...it is the fact that both are pushing the limits of technology while "bailout motors" & the rest of Detriot sit on their perverbial cans and let the rest of the world lead us into the future. Both are to be commended for making both a race of it and leading the way into the future.
     
  25. F1tommy

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    Also have to commend Toyota for sticking with Lemans as they have never won anything..Come to think of it they have never won anything in F1 either. GM has been doing pretty good with the Corvette wich is based on a real Chevrolet. What was the Toyota based on, a Prius??
     

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