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  1. coburg

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    #1 coburg, Jul 3, 2012
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    Hello everyone,
    i am looking for a 308 exhaust with a single end pipe.
    Does anyone sell one original with single end pipe???
    Or is there a sportexhaust sythem with single end pipe so my car can still look original???
    Thank you for your help!

    I add a pic of my car with the single end pipe.

    Axel
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  2. Elentinos

    Elentinos Formula Junior

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    Superformance sell a stainless steel variant of the single outlet exhaust.
     
  3. wazie7262

    wazie7262 Formula 3

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    I have from a Euro dry sump 308 GTB ;-)
     
  4. 4rePhill

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    I know that for some 308's the single tailpipe is period correct - but to Me at least - a single tailpipe on a Ferrari just looks wrong! :(
     
  5. coburg

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    Thank you Erwin! I will call them tomorrow.
     
  6. Crowndog

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    I am curious about your car. I thought that all single pipe cars had reverse lights in the bumper not in the round lights. What year is your car and is it Euro?
     
  7. VEEP

    VEEP Formula Junior

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    All euro dry sump GTB`s had single tailpipe, with as I recall double on order as option . SO also on steel ones. See on autoscout24.eu, there are some, even 1980 year GTB`s with single tip. Personallu I like it, nice clean backside, and the sound is also ok. In my opinion it is a feature for the dry sump. Everybody has double tips, dare to be different!
     
  8. nerofer

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    + 1, True: all Euros dry-sump GTB have the single pipe exhaust, the four pipe one being only an option.
    A small french exhaust manufacturer, Orbisoud, offers a Stainless steel aftermarket single-pipe exhaust for these cars.
     
  9. JCR

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    Not only that, but it is just bad exhaust engineering. There is no reason to run those today.
     
  10. VEEP

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    how come, bad engeneering??? explain. Friend of mine has had a vetro for years, and did a lot of km on it with both single and quad exhaust, also (club) racing. No difference in performance. So please expand my wisdom?
     
  11. coburg

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    Hi Robert, it´s a 1980 GTS Caburated Euro Spec car.
    Cheers axel
     
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  12. coburg

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    Hello Nerofer, do you have a hompage where i can buy the single exhaust???
    Thank you!

    Cheers axel
     
  13. krisdisk

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    It's original in your case. I think it looks so great, and it sound great too. But finding an original won't be easy...
     
  14. nerofer

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    Axel,

    It's a small company, but their products have good reputation. Their website is www.orbisoud.com, but you can't order on line; should you decide to order, you first have to write them and ask them for a quote, after having given your preference regarding level of noise, and type of sound, this with some picture of your car and your exhaust.
    They build a lot of different exhausts, and I know that have already manufactured the single pipe one for the 308.

    Best,
     
  15. 4rePhill

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    For Me when I was growing up:

    Single exhaust pipe = ordinary domestic family car.

    Double exhaust pipes exhaust = Something a bit sporty.

    Dual exhaust pipes = Something interesting, most likely with a V6 or V8 engine.

    Quad exhausts = Something exotic!


    A single exhaust pipe on a Ferrari just looks to me like someone's put a cheap exhaust on it.
    (This is just a personal opinion and is not intended to offend anyone BTW!)



    If I were in charge of the World - All Italian cars would have to be fitted with quad exhausts by Law! :)
     
  16. vaccarella

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    Hehe

    I like your summary. It's curious how important exhaust piping is to automobile iconography. Look at the three pipe stuff on the 458. Was that necessary? The F40 had three, but the middle one was supposed to be for the wastegate wasn't it? (whether it really needed it I don't know)

    I'm not an exhaust expert, but I loved the manifolds from the late 60s F1 cars like the white pipes on the 312. Is that where all this exhaust fetishism started?

    Even though I have a "puny" 308i, I really like my chrome tipped quad exhausts. There's something of the 70s about it, an elegance, an extravagance and a purposefulnesss. Maybe it would work just the same with a rusty little pea shooter, but I prefer what it has.

    But I can also see the other pov; the minimalism of the single pipe. Both are good & the variety we have in just one model series is wonderful.
     
  17. VEEP

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    When I was growing up that were my thoughts too...In the meantime I have grown up.....I think a 308 wth single tip is awesome, if correct for the model. And 2 tips, 1 left 1 right is better!, four, if possible no. A miura has ta have 2 tips either side too, four tips is too much. 288GTO, likewise. etc etc its all a matter of personal taste.
     
  18. nerofer

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    Well, if my memory serves me well, didn't the first 365 BB have SIX exhaust pipes, three on each side?

    (aside: I agree with Vacarella: gosh, that Ferrari 312 F1 of 1967 was a gorgeous car! and the white spaghetti exhausts in the center of the V12 did help, of course! There is a picture in Alan Henry's book about Ferrari in Formula One, published by Autocourse, of Chris Amon turning the hairpin at Spa with that car: its lines are clean and pure, a real jewel)

    Whatever the number, one, two, four exhaust tubes, I don't mind, BUT cars should always have exhaust PIPES; look around you today, the new saloons have no exhaust pipes anymore: the pipes, more often than not not even round anymore, but triangular in section, or whatever...are integrated inside the bumper in a duct; you don't see the pipe, but only its mouth.
    That is just plainly wrong: a car need real exhaust pipes, with chromed tips, period.
     
  19. coburg

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    #19 coburg, Jul 5, 2012
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    Hi Phill,
    i agree with you that the 4 pipe systhem looks way better but single is original and becomes verry rar. I am anyways looking for a QV so i keep this one original.
    Cheers from Germany

    PS: I hope no one thinks its a replica becous of the single exhaust. One of my friends said it looks like a cheap japanese copy of a Ferrari...
     
  20. VEEP

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    is it important what other people think? I have no F, but when it is for me, not anyone else (ok, my wife can use it now and then..)For the ones that know a single tip exhaust is recognition of a dry sump early one.
     
  21. nerofer

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    Exactly; never mind what other people think about your car looking like this or that: a single pipe 308 is fully original; keep it that way. The 308 is a beautiful classic; what other people think should not be a consideration. Real "connaisseurs" know that your car is exactly how it should be.
    Had a guy coming out of nowhere one sunday morning and looking at my 328 GTB; he was no expert and was absolutely convinced that my car was a replica; he left saying "this is the nicest 328 GTB replica I have ever seen" and left very satisfied. I was happy, too; it made my day. (I didn't ask my car if she was also happy?)
     
  22. Crowndog

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    Could not agree more! It amazes me the shapes they are making these things today. I hope Ferrari sticks with round.
     
  23. BigTex

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    Actually, there are variations in how the rear valence itself was made.

    The single outlet has it own matching body part.

    All the North American cars had a flat valence, so more flexibility as to choice of exhaust.
    We also had a HEAVY thermo muffler as OEM equipment, so installing a much lighter ANSA did infact reduce weight and improve exhaust note. "Performance" improvement was probably measured in 1/100ths of a second!!

    I can certainly understand those with single outlet valences wanting to keep it that way.
     
  24. BigTex

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    Hilarious.........
     
  25. Albert-LP

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    I need some help to redone the hole where the single tip exhaust has to stay: isn't here anyone that can provide a picture or some measures?

    Thank you very much!

    ciao
     

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