THE F70 (LaFerrari) Thread

It's interesting to note that modern road Ferraris have sophisticated enough aero to require these particular camo pieces to be tacked on. The engine is expecting the air to come from places via directed flow around the front of the car that can't be accounted for otherwise. I also wonder if that's an aero bridge a la F12.

Regardless, the lines of a modern take on a vintage racer are definitely there in a very, very good way.

 

Getting the balance perfect is key, I agree, but is the 50/50 the figure to aim for, or is 53-56/47-44 better for mid engined, rear wheel drive cars. IIRC F1, LMP1, and even Audi e-tron 4xwheel drive have their balance more to the back... only race car I know (which means littlr) of that has 50/50 is the BMW M3 GTR.

Anyway I seriosly doupt Ferrari will get this wrong. As for the Porsche it's a 1700kg elephant of a car, no matter how they balance it out, it will take longer to stop, put more pressure on the tires in coroners,etc... While the Carrera GT was a competitior to the Enzo, this I feel won't even touch the Enzo replacments performances....It's just way too heavy

 

they won't. Ferrari's are capabel of winning Le Mans and F1 GP's. Ferrari knows perfectly well how to built a performance car. If the car has characteristics that doesn't necessarily go well with circuit-use, than that is because Ferrari wanted it that way.

 

A bit of the front fascia:

http://imgbox.com/abrTAPlQ

 

As Ferrari hasn't finished first overall at Le Mans since 1965 whether or not they are "capabel of winning Le Mans" today remains far from proven.

 

not true. only car that is sure bet to get an F70 is 599XX. anything else (enzo, f50, f40, 288gto, etc) helps but is not enough on it's own. any other car is just a car in the list - even the special limited edition cars. also depends to some extent where you live. in hk, for example, there are 250gto owners, 3 599xx owners, many fxx owners, several clienti f1 owners, lots of owners of more than 10 ferraris. in short a tough audience

 

All true but you have the ear of LdM and they did like your Daytona!
CH

 

The light grey and extra black is camo but the rest isn't and is likely close.

 

I like those front fenders. Judging from the spy pics, looks like those will be an important part of the aerodynamic flow. Makes me think (but I might be wrong of course) that they want to channel the airflow right over those, or probably over the front arms, not to stress tyres too much and keep the car driveable and extremely stable.

 

I flipped thru a few more pics at that link and I like one, http://imgbox.com/abkfj2yC.

"Stalking its prey" comes to mind.

 

I found those spy photos in HD and with no watermarks and I upload them there.

 

When a FXX is mechanically more similar to the future Enzo replacement, I find this hard to believe.

 

Think about doing this analysis on every part and the cost to reduce weight and achieve the desired balance F/R...

Item Position
X [mm]
Y [mm]
Z [mm]
Current
2615
-326
-227
New
2615
-326
-227
Item Weight
Mass [Kg]
Current
3,518
New
2,030

 

I think about this every night before falling to sleep...

 

I had lunch with a FXX owner (and regular driver) a couple of weeks ago during an F40 drive out and he told me that all XX-Customers will get one. But price and production numbers where not fixed yet as far as he knew. Another Ferrari owner (has an Enzo, F50, F40 and 288 GTO amongst others) was not sure if he'll get one.

Martin

 

430 and 458 have proved to be class winners. These are fundamentally roadcars (allthough heavy modified). I am not sure why we would have to put the benchmark for the next super Ferrari at an overall Le Mans win, as that would necessitate a LMP1-car, which has little or nothing to do with a roadcar. And at the end of the day, the F70, or whatever it is called, is a roadcar.

While a do agree with the argument that a super-Ferrari should have true trckpotential, I do not subscribe to the notion that if it turns out that it hasn't (like the current Enzo), the design is flawed. If that is the case, Ferrari obviously has a different view of what a super-Ferrari is supposed to be. If they want to built a car with trackpotential, they can built a car with trackpotential. No problem at all. Now, let's wait and see how the next one turns out. Maybe one can be put throught the test in racing against P4/5C.

 

Was Clapton offered one?

 

This makes sense.

 

He spent his car budget on the SP12. LOL

 

The New Enzo with it's V12 will have zero potential in 24 Hour Endurance racing. It obviously wasn't designed with that in mind.

 

A quick and dirty photoshop.. still hard to tell exactly where they are going, but it looks like the front is broken up into three areas, starting with the lower lip.
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I saw another angle of that shot and that f1 noise seemed to be camo too..

 

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Yes, that's camo, but we are detailing this: http://imgbox.com/acvlSbzk