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Discussion in 'Tracking & Driver Education' started by boxerman, Jul 19, 2012.

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  1. boxerman

    boxerman F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    Thanks for the offer I will def take you up on it.
    Will Pm some passible dates for Oct Nov one work travel eases a bit..
     
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    I too have a friend that tracks his Noble (Rossion) and more often than not he has some issue with it.

    I'm a huge fan of the GT40 and like the idea that one can vintage race it. That car will be a hit wherever you take it- car club events, track days, vintage races, anywhere. Gorgeous and fast, and can be street-driven.

    QUESTION: Can one street-drive a vintage-race version SPF GT40? and are they available in LHD?
     
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    Yes from the photos you are correct.
     
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    I too have a friend that tracks his Noble (Rossion) and more often than not he has some issue with it.

    I'm a huge fan of the GT40 and like the idea that one can vintage race it. That car will be a hit wherever you take it- car club events, track days, vintage races, anywhere. Gorgeous and fast, and can be street-driven.

    QUESTION: Can one street-drive a vintage-race version SPF GT40? and are they available in LHD?
    Today 12:20 PM



     
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    Awesome!!!
     
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    Saw those photos originaly when looking at the Crescent Classic, happy to see where they came from, must be an awesome trip.

    And now we def know a RHD GT40 can have R spec pieces and can be street driven, was thinking both seats close to centerline. BTw what is the setup in your MK2.

    Sean
     
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    Quite awhile back I was looking at a Mclaren Mk6 (IIRC).

    A real Mclaren streetable with a chevy V-8.

    Dont know if any are on the market but one more consideration (?).
     
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    This discussion got me thinking about sales of these cars in the 60's. A street GT40 I think it was called a Mk3 barely sold. I wonder if it was because the car was detuned and somewhat restyled. I heard the build quality was atrocious, so one was left with a car neither great for street or track. I did read that a few people ran a MK1 on the street back in the day.

    In any event, today this is a relatively popular car, yet road conditions ar far worse for this type of Machine. Same with the Shelby cobra, a car for which there are far more replicas made in a year than were ever made in period.

    Are the current versions of these cars slightly more civilised and better made leading to more use, is their relative price cheaper making them more affordable? If SPF costs 130K today, what was the price of a MK1 in 66. or a Selby 427 cobra. Perhaps the popularity is also becuase there is a lack of any suitable modern alternatives, or are they just so iconic now even though in period they were just old race cars as was a 250 GTO.

    Undoubtably one reason they are so prolificaly replicated is that the body and chassis parts are "relatively easily" made, compared to say a ferrari, and the motors are still production based and close to off the shelf. Still it is curious that these two are so prolificaly replicated now, yet were relatively poor sellers in period and even as used cars. I can see where originals became vlauable as vintage racers, but very few of the replicas/recreations are raced, so there is more to it than that. One clue, they are both Anglo American hybrids, which made them easier to build then as now. i wonder if a Ferrari SWB or GTO recreation could be had for say under 200K how many would be made, or a Jag Dtype C type. My bet is sales would still be lower.

    Perhaps the answer is these two cars just hit a perfect sweet spot between race and road in an evocative, viceral and affordable, home maintainable package, which no other has. I guess we see something similar with the popularity of porche 911 RS clones. A Maclaren or Lola T70 is probably just one step too far in terms of track bias. Still one has to admit that the fact you can buy a brand new 60's lemans winner and use it, has got to be one of the automotive opportunities of the 21st century.
     
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    If you are really looking for a track car that you can drive on the street and are not concerned with poser points, you should seriously consider a Caterham R500. I admit I am totally biased, but for the money, the performance is unbeatable, parts are cheap, the car is virtually indestructible and it can match or beat all but a very few of the cars mentioned above for a fraction of the cost. Check out the Top Gear lap time list and you'll see that performance to price ratio is absolutely unbeatable. Anything close costs at least twice as much. Tires, brakes, engines last far longer as well, so running costs are minimal. I have driven primarily on the street, but friend of mine in S. Cal has 10,000 TRACK miles on his, with no mechanical work other than regular maintenance. Try that in any of the above cars.
     
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    Love the Caterham have driven a freinds one. Question is what happens when you have an off in one, or someone in a Z06/GTR happens to touch you at speed. I know in the Uk they have a full cage, but have not seen that here.
     
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    Ok old thread update. My SPF Gt40 build is nearing completion. Motor is 302 based but bored with really really good bits, solid lifetr shaft rockers lightweight billet crank etc,so dynoed at 576 hp and 467 Tq. The car was delivered from Sa in spring, the holdup in build has been custom cogs for the gearbox, once I had the dyno figures thought might as well do it right.

    Car is RHD sill shift, pretty much a track setup, in terms of brakes shocks springs, fuel bladder etc. Dennis Oltroff doing the build.

    Also joined Monticello, because such a beast needs lots of running and I will need lots of consistent track time to get anywhere decent in it.

    Till it arrives been doing time in my elise, learning the lines at monticello.

    Will let you know in the spring how it all goes.
     
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    A little different, but here is a short crappy vid of two Daytona replicas at a NJMP Thunderbolt DE a few years back.. loved the way they sounded.

    https://vimeo.com/45037551
     

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