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  1. Flat_Twelve

    Flat_Twelve Karting

    Dec 28, 2008
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    Hi all,

    I have recently begun to occasionally hear this strange loud squealing noise from the right rear of the car that sounds similar to slowly letting the air out of a balloon. It happens maybe every third or fourth time I drive the car, certainly not all the time. It's definitely related to wheel speed, as the pitch rises and lowers with speed, not engine revs. It does it in neutral or in gear. If I yank the steering wheel to the left, it goes away instantly and doesn't come back, and only does it occasionally which is a pain because I can't replicate it for my mechanic.

    Any ideas are appreciated, and before Shamile chimes in, it is not the same type of squeal that happens in the passenger seat of his cars :)

    Best!
     
  2. Philwozza

    Philwozza Formula 3

    Apr 23, 2009
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    Sounds like you have a dose of the Shamile squeel :D

    You can get rid of it by moving further North to cooler weather :)

    P
     
  3. ria

    ria Formula Junior

    Nov 2, 2003
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    hope is not the caryer bearing.
     
  4. DerWebMeister

    Aug 21, 2007
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    I recently had a squeel on my BMW 850 that turned out to be the ABS system pump. When I slowed enough, the sound went away but returned as soon as the car was fast enough for the system to start running. It was a strange sound that had me replace carrier bearings to try to fix it. So now I have new carrier bearings. Since you mention yanking the wheel to stop the sound, maybe a pump might be somewhere in the loop for you to check.
     
  5. Flat_Twelve

    Flat_Twelve Karting

    Dec 28, 2008
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    Dude, I live in Calgary, Canada. If I move much further North, I will be in Russia upside down! Haha!

    Cheers
     
  6. Shamile

    Shamile F1 Veteran

    Dec 31, 2002
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    #6 Shamile, Aug 7, 2010
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2010
    Dear Ferraristi,


    Bawhahahaha!

    ....damn those hand prints on the front hood of my cars.... :D



    Hey....that sounds like a good line.... :D


    Can you see Russia from your house too?


    This really sounds like a right rear wheel bearing. Are you sure it's coming from the right rear? Usually rear wheel bearings sound like they're coming through the car....like a drone.

    To try a simple test, jack up the car. You don't need to lift the whole car on jack stands but just one wheel off the ground at a time. Once you jack up the wheel you want to test, grab the tire at the 12 and 6 o clock positions. Pull / push in and out. Meaning, if you push in at 12...pull forward at 6. If you have any play....more likely, it's a wheel bearing.

    The rear bearings are a pain and the hub has to come off. I had my RR rear wheel bearing done....it wasn't cheap. I didn't know how to do it....then came our Auzzie friend Robert who did a whole thread on it.



    Shamile

    Freeze....Miami Vice !
     
  7. Hawaii

    Hawaii Formula Junior

    Jan 28, 2007
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    I agree...sounds like wheel bearing..when you turn the wheel it unloads the bearing briefly so the sound stops fo r short time. It will get worse and louder over time.
    Report back after repaired.
     
  8. Flat_Twelve

    Flat_Twelve Karting

    Dec 28, 2008
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    Thanks Shamile, I will give that a whirl this week and let you know what I come up with.

    Cheers.

    PS - and about the handprints, I'd hate to see what you spend on Quick Detailer spray in a year...
     
  9. blown daytona

    blown daytona Formula 3

    Feb 6, 2008
    1,679
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    Another way to check a wheel bearing is: Get wheels off of the ground, grab the spring with one hand while rotating the tire with the other hand. You will be able to feel the roughness in the bearing thru the spring. If I get one that passes the Shamile wiggle test and my spring test, I run the car (with wheels off the ground) at whatever speed it is you hear the noise and use a mechanics stethascope to find the source of the noise. Good Luck
     
  10. Flat_Twelve

    Flat_Twelve Karting

    Dec 28, 2008
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    Sorry for the *slight* delay in reporting the fix to this, but it turned out to be a spun rear wheel bearing.

    Replaced the bearings and added a little loctite for good meassure. No damage to the shaft or anything else. No issues now after putting another 15,000kms on it.
     
  11. 302Tim

    302Tim Formula 3

    Jul 2, 2011
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    Glad to hear all is well. Where did you source your bearings from?
     
  12. Testarossa1

    Testarossa1 Karting

    Jun 15, 2007
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    My tech has just confirmed my suspicion of a worn right rear bearing-another job for the winter lay-up :)
     
  13. Flat_Twelve

    Flat_Twelve Karting

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    Hi Tim,

    My dealer (Ferrari of Alberta) did the whole repair and sourced the parts. Not sure what brand they used, but I assume it is whatever is OEM these days.

    Cheers.
     
  14. Flat_Twelve

    Flat_Twelve Karting

    Dec 28, 2008
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    Hi Clive,

    That's pretty much how I see it, too: driving season, and fixing season :)

    About the bearings on my car, the issue was that the outer ring was spinning in the hub causing the squealing noise. Luckily it didn't really do much damage and when they replaced it with the new one, they used a bead of Loctite in the hub to make sure it stayed put. Their suspicion was that the bearing seized which caused it to spin.

    Hopefully yours will be a nice easy job!

    Cheers.
     
  15. mikefb

    mikefb Karting

    Aug 14, 2011
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    Hi
    I HOPE THIS INFO WILL HELP HELP EVERYONE SAVE MONEY
    I HAVE JUST CHANGED REAR WHEEL BEARING ON MY 512TR
    VERY EXPENSIVE FROM FERRARI
    I FOUND OUT THAT THE MASERARI 3500 REAR BEARING IS THE SAME BEARING
    HALF THE PRICE OF FERRARI
    REGARDS MIKE
     
  16. mikefb

    mikefb Karting

    Aug 14, 2011
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    HI
    HOPE THIS INFO MIGHT HELP SAVE MONEY FOR SOMEONE
    I HAVE REPLACED REAR WHEEL BEARING ON MY 512TR
    VERY EXPENSIVE FROM FERRARI
    I REPLACED IT WITH A BEARING FROM A MASERATI 4200
    HALF THE PRICE (SAME BEARING)

    REGARDS MIKE
     
  17. Testarossa1

    Testarossa1 Karting

    Jun 15, 2007
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    Thanks mike :) I will pass this info on to my tech-hopefully the maser will fit the testarossa as well as the 512tr !

    Clive-tr boy
     
  18. 302Tim

    302Tim Formula 3

    Jul 2, 2011
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    512TR and TR rear bearings are considerably different. Mel has a thread on his 512TR bearing replacement and I recall he said it was also very $$. The Maserati bearing substitute is great news though for 512TR owners. I'm starting to research TR bearings and they seem to vary in price by manufacturer and range from ~$30-$150 US, with SKF and Timken being the more expensive. Robert Hayden (UZZ32Soarer) covers the replacement very well in his thread and/or website. Good luck!
     
  19. Flat_Twelve

    Flat_Twelve Karting

    Dec 28, 2008
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    Hi Tim,

    I just dug up my invoice, and they used SKF.

    Cheers.
     
  20. Testarossa1

    Testarossa1 Karting

    Jun 15, 2007
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    Neil, Tim, Mike- thnx for the info guys :)
    Just back from a 90 mins drive in the last of the evening sun with a couple of members of my car club, one in his fly yellow F355 spider and a silver NSX -LIFE IS GOOD !!!
    ( I will try to post some pics-but I'm on my iPad?? )
     

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