New P12

In these sorts of cars, because you sit so close to the front wheels, you sit very close to the middle of the car anyway. Jump in a M6 CanAM car, you only inches from the middle.

The centre seat in the original McLaren F1 car was a gimic ... and put passengers closer to the side of the car which does not help with side protection. It also meant that passengers did not get anywhere near the similar experience to riding in one as the driver as they were sitting further back.

In this car both driver and passenger will be very close together (as you would be in a M6 CanAm car) and have the same side protection, and other than actually driving the car the passenger gets as close as possible to the same experience/view.
Pete

 

Anyone else notice that the headlight design echos the McLaren logo?
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Looks to me like an updated version of a Tommy Kaira ZZII... Very asian-influenced design, whether wind-tunnel mandated or not.

I'm not a fan of any of these new McLaren cars. I'm anxious to see what the new Ferrari will look like.

 

China is the current market ... no point making a car Greek or Spanish-influenced at the moment.
Pete

 

This. 1,000% this. I don't understand the people in awe over it, it doesn't look good at all. I'm not a fan of the MP4-12C either so I don't understand the people who think they look good. They are extremely capable on the track, but styling wise, nope.

 

+1

I have no idea what kind of revolution McLaren is bringing to the hypercar scene... They promised all kind of wizardry for the MP4 too, but...

Also, IMO it reassembles MP4 too much based on the premium (200.000 GPB vs. 800.000 GPB!). Just look at the striking differences between a Carrera GT and other street Porsches at the time, and Enzo vs. F430 etc.

 

Thats because it's based on it. It really will be an MP4 with a different body and more power (not that difficult considering their base engine).

Can you imagine if the Enzo was just a 360 with different body panels and stretched a little? Keeping the same engine etc just with a bit more power? And then charge 4x as much for it?

Laughable. At this price range, get a car that's completely bespoke and not based on their entry level car.

 

328 GTB vs. 288 GTO ring a bell?

 

This is not good the glasshouse is too big for the rest of the car and some of the detailing is bizzarre. Styling wise Ferrari must be breathing easy as I am pretty sure the new Enzo will move the game on just as the 458 has.

 

despite the similarities in visual bodywork, there is a considerable difference between the 288 and 328, more so than they show presently between the 12C and P12!

 

agreed ....that's a 4 fold increase in cost, we'll yet see if the cost is justified ...i'm sure it will look striking (which is different than 'beautiful') and yet it is not the kind of car i would go sit in my garage and stare at for hours!

 

There is a considerable difference between 328 GTB and the 288 GTO, but I am quite certain that the difference is a lot less that the difference between 12C and the P1 will be. Based on press reports, the only shared piece of the chassis is the center tub. The bodywork has no shared parts whatsoever, and the exterior dimensions are different. The powerplant (internal combustion part of it) is based on the same engine, but I highly doubt that it´s just a boosted version of the 12C engine. Then the KERS, active aero and the suspension...

Let´s put it this way; I don´t think that in 30 years time we will be seeing MP4-12C´s turned into a P1 recreations..

 

GTO only shares doors (?) and roof with the 308. They are nothing alike

 

LMAO!

now this is a great looking car IMO:

http://www.jaguarusa.com/future-vehicles/cx75/gallery/

 

Looks like a modern interpretation of the XJ13, which is my pick for best looking car of all time.
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Yes!!!! I'll take it.

(Do you think they would let me take out a 720 month note?)

 

Only with first born male issue as collateral.

 

Awesome looking Jag, although my fav car designer of all time would have to be Ghandini.

The rear end of the new McL is its best feature.

 

i suspect the two macs are nothing alike either....and share little to nothing.

 

They have said to share the C.F. tub along with 3.8 liter motor

 

308 vs 288 happened at a time where the 288 was a very special car. Not a crapload of supercars in the same price range for sale, then. Means they could get away with it then. Though it set a bit of a precedent, didn't it...

These days, though, with a name like McLaren, and with extra motivation to impress, I think the P1 (based only on the pictures, which is dangerous in itself) falls way behind expectations.

 

+1

Just another wind tunnel car

 

Yep, that one is STUNNING looking.

 

Yes it is !

 

the 288 gto is a 328 with a twin turbo v8 and a wide body kit in short.. no matter how its spun, it has a modified chassis with a 328... Because if it was so special... why couldnt they just do a rebody like the Ferraris before and make it look even more different? Has nothing to do with supercar landscape... because ultimately the concept is the same... use a production chassis, modify it, boost up power, tweak the body work a bit and call it another car... Same thing with Mclaren... But at least the body looks alot more different than the 328 and 288... The 288 looks like a wide fendered 328... Maybe thats why there have been 328 modified with 288 body kits out there. Seems from those 288 conversion kits, perhaps they didnt get away with it... IMHO I cant imagine any Mclaren 12c will go under the knife to be modified into the P1 anytime in the near future...