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Truimph Stag

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  1. Wade

    Wade Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #1 Wade, Aug 30, 2012
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  2. f308jack

    f308jack F1 Rookie

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    Same here, also had friends who had them, never owned one myself. I do have a piston out of one, that I've had since the then new car blew the engine with less than 20 miles on it. Back then they weren't the most reliable engines, I would imagine that they could be made reliable these days.

    A lot of them received Rover V-8's at some point in their lives, which is a bit of a shame, as that original 2.5 liter did a wonderful job when in good fettle.

    Always thought of it as a very stylish Gentleman's carriage.

    The car in the link is of course wonderful, it should have had a manual transmission for perfect. I'm curious to see what kind of value the market will adhere to it.
     
  3. PSk

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    Triumph clutches and manual gearboxes are horrid things ... something to think about.
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  4. ktr6

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    I would consider one with an American driveline swap, added power and reliability. I just don't see these having tremendous resale value as original in the future so a swap will just make the car more fun.
     
  5. dstacy

    dstacy F1 World Champ
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    Yep I had one. I knew quite a bit about them back in the day. Trying to find the correct top for a 1971 car versus a '72 or '73 car is tough. Fun car to drive. If you don't mind rebuilding the engines, specifically the timing chains and the tensioners every 20,000 miles you'll have a blast owning one. (the tensioners are junk which causes the chain to jump time which puts a valve through a piston) Parts can still be had in the UK.
     
  6. etmracing

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    A bunch have had swaps done by now making them pretty decent.
     
  7. JTranfield

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    I also had one when I lived in the UK. I really enjoyed mine and it was reliable with the original engine. I seem to remember cooling upgrades solved a lot of the overheating problems.

    As for value I think a decent one is becoming pretty collectable in Europe at least.
     
  8. roadracer311

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    This has something even worse. An automatic transmission.

    The brake pedal looks a little worn for such low miles. As does the trunk carpet. Never know, could just be the design of the brake pedal to have the lines fade away at the edges. It's from a very well respected seller.
     
  9. Atlanta355

    Atlanta355 Karting

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    The car on Ebay does not look like such low miles. Looks like a cheap re-paint as well.
     
  10. normv

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    Hello, I agree. the wood on the dash looks not so good either. But I guess the price is right.
     
  11. Wade

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    #11 Wade, Oct 2, 2012
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    You can tell that from online photos? The car looks more like a barn find to me. :)

    BTW, from what I remember Fantasy Junction has a pretty good rep and price their cars appropriately.

    Anyway, here's another (looks great in Black):

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Original-1971-Triumph-Stag-Manual-Transmission-Original-Triumph-V-8-engine-/261107286626?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3ccb350262
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  12. normv

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    Absolutly a bad paint job. Look at the Stag and BL logos on the side of the very orange peel paint with the logos poorly taped off rather than removed with overspray on the rubbers in the door seams. Not to mention the pedal rubbers with a lot of wear on them, this is not a low mile car and I can see that from those pictures a couple of thousand miles away over the internet, LOL.
     
  13. Isobel

    Isobel F1 World Champ

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    If I'm not mistaken, FJ doesn't state the car has 138 miles, they says it shows 00,138.

    If so, it's exceptional and seems to have been well kept for 100k.

    The Stag is one of those cars that are either apart or not in running condition whenever I've come across one. Nice of FJ to mention the car is 'currently' up and running...;)
     
  14. Wade

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    Yes, it does appear to be well tattered...

    Based on that I wonder what FJ is thinking regarding its reserve.... it certainly should have been met at under $6k.
     
  15. bill365

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    #15 bill365, Oct 4, 2012
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    I know that F-Chat is not a place where people usually air their opinions :D, but....

    IMO and IME, the Stag was a good looking and nice driving car, but spent way too much time in the shop. The Stag engine, seemed to go through a lot of trouble, making a small amount of horsepower (127 SAE) to push a 2800 lb car. But the guiding lights at Triumph fought hard and long, for their own V8 motor creation at the British Leyland governing board, against the still in great service Rover (nee Buick) alloy V8 engine (a reliable, IIRC, 145 HP at the time) and the MGV8 (Rover engine), which they contended would hamper the sales of the Stag. Hell, the TR6 drive train would have been much better, more HP, much more reliable and the Stag was originally designed with it.

    Had BL acted in a reasonable manner, the Stag and the MGV8, would have both been in production with Rover power plants and sold many units. This additional engine production, would have exceeded Rovers capacity at the time, but production could have been shifted over to one of the many other underused BL facilities. One of the many BIG mistakes of BL and JRT.
     

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