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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ALL THAT DON'T OWN A FERRARI!

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by RAMMER, May 2, 2008.

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  1. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 22, 2004
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    Where did you find that image, the one with the 308 GTB and 312 F1 car?

    -F
     
  2. Will

    Will Formula Junior

    Nov 12, 2004
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    Raleigh, NC
    great post, rammer! Hopefully I'll have my 308 before too much longer :)
     
  3. djs308

    djs308 Formula 3
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    Sep 2, 2002
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    No need to convince me about the joy of owning a 308s. I've been pursuing the dream of getting my own for over two decades now. A few years ago, I actually came really close to closing a deal on one, but it failed a PPI and the seller wasn't interested in doing anything about it. Since then, my financial situation has radically changed: I'm now married, have a mortgage, and a kid. Shortly thereafter, my Ferrari Fund went down to, and continues to remain at ZERO. Yeah, that's a bummer. And what's worse is that my wife already gave me the 'OK' to buy one IF we were to ever have the finances. She and I have actually launched a small home-based business to hopefully help bring in some extra $$ but it's really tough as there's not enough time in the day to get everything done and "make it big".

    Realistically, it's not going to happen for me any time soon. Everyone who knows me knows how crazy I am to get a 308QV and I've got a lot of support for "the dream". But not being able to afford one is what's been in my way. Add to that the fact that the asking prices are now rising (great for sellers!) while the number of quality 308's remaining on the road diminishes every year.

    Fortunately, I've been able to meet some very generous 308 owners and have had some rides + 1 drive to date. I get to scratch the 308 "itch" with nearly daily visits to F-chat and perusing other Ferrari related literature. Oh, and we've even bought a 308 cromodora wheel, a mondial grill and fender off ebay to add to our home's decor! That all has helped me feel like I'm making progress towards becoming an owner, but at the end of the day, I'm still stuck on the outside looking in. A little motivational boost every now and then from owners and enthusiasts posting to threads like this certainly helps. One day, I hope to be joining in on the ownership side!
     
  4. Mr.Chairman

    Mr.Chairman F1 Rookie

    Mar 21, 2008
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    #29 Mr.Chairman, May 4, 2008
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    Greetings. +1 and bravo. I too am not rich and have funds to toss around. Those who do - salute... I came accross a 90 TR that was hit and was in deep need of some TLC. I saw the unpolished diamond of what could be. To make a long story short - sometimes buying a car with some body issues is not a complete loser. I got her back the right way. Tightened her up bit and walla. My FCar dream is now real. She puts a smile on my face everytime I open the door to get in.

    Drive it and love it. Good for you my man

    Robbie
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  5. Back Marker

    Back Marker Formula Junior

    Aug 26, 2006
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    I pretty much agree with the op, except I'd suggest someone only taking the plunge if they don't go into debt.

    btw - I'd suggest moving this thread to General Discussion where more potential first-time owners might read it.
     
  6. RAMMER

    RAMMER Formula 3

    Feb 20, 2004
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    It sounds like you are being a good family man.....and that is comendable. Here is a thought and something that I would do....If I was not able to put $40k together to buy a Ferrari. By the way, this is only for diehard Ferrari lovers such as myself. Lets call this a 3 year experiment into Ferrari ownership. For my plan, you must have good credit, good driving history, a reliable transportation that is paid for, a house with some equity and a garage. Having all these things in place is not easy and I know that. First, get an equity line at the prime rate. Assuming you pay interest only, you can borrow $40k for about $200 a month. Then, locate a stout, low mielage 308 QV at market value (about $40k). Get a PPI and make sure the car is exceptional. Insure the car with Hagety for about $300 a year....thats all I pay. Lets budget about $150-$200 a month for maintenance or $5400-$7200 for 36 months (I have spent less). Assuming you drive the car for less than 15k miles and nothing explodes, depreciation will be little to nonexistent (my car's value is up about75%). After three years of ownership you can sell and have a bunch of great memories. I figure about $375 to $400 is all the money wou will need to finance and run a 308. Saying goodbye will be hard to do and you may want to send in extra $$ to actually pay for the car.

    Before all of you condem me, let me say that I was fortunate enouph to buy my Ferrari cash with hard earned money. At the time, I was scared about maintenance, reliability, and rationalized....if things dont work out, I can sell the car and loose no more than $10k. As you already know, things have worked out and if I were to sell today I would actually make money. Ofcourse, I would never sell.

    What do you guys think about my thought process here?

     
  7. RAMMER

    RAMMER Formula 3

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    How would I move the thread?

     
  8. RAMMER

    RAMMER Formula 3

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    I found it on a google search some time ago. If you give me an email adress I can send it to you....
     
  9. RAMMER

    RAMMER Formula 3

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  10. jimpo1

    jimpo1 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jul 30, 2001
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    Your experience does NOT mirror mine. Driving the car 15k miles in 3 years, based on my direct experience, could easily cost you something like $15k in maintenance. I realize I'm likely at the upper end of that curve, but you are likely at the lower end. I'm well over $1/mile over the last 7 years in my 328.
     
  11. UpNorth

    UpNorth Formula 3
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    Sep 30, 2006
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    Francois
    Gawk! Keys! Where are my keys...Got to go get my fix! LOL! SOOOOO TRUE!
     
  12. boatr2001

    boatr2001 Karting

    Oct 3, 2006
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    Rockford,IL
    While of course lumping down the cash for an F-Car purchase can provide a good piece of mind- especially for the "surprises", I agree w/ Rammer that financing thru a home equity, may be the most financially "prudent" thing to do....right now anyways. With the Prime rate sitting at 5%, a good borrower can find a HELOC for example at Prime minus .5 to .10 depending on line amount. That puts your effective rate at say 4.25%. If you are unable to take that Ferrari" money and get an investment return of at least 5%-by all means put it in the car. But, with current lending rates so low (CDs and savings rates low too btw), any half decent investor can in this market return at LEAST that much. The difference between your potential (money sitting in the car) and your actual (interest paid on HELOC) should really be added to the cost of the car. And keep in mind Uncle Sam helps pay some HELOC cost (tax deductable). This is strictly my opinion, but money on wall street will grow faster than money in a 308. Of course I HOPE my 308 goes up in value faster than Wall Street, but I'm not willing to bet 35,000 out of my portfolio on it. YMMV. Take Care.....
     
  13. Hans

    Hans F1 Veteran

    Feb 17, 2006
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    :D

    My buddy in the passenger seat is a Porsche fan. After a day with me at our Fchat meeting he admitted "almost" considering buying a Ferrari :D

    Yes, they are FUN!!
     
  14. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    #39 kerrari, May 6, 2008
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    +1000!

    Shame you can't see my grin in this pic, but it lasts for days!

    P.S. Thanks to the guys at aussieexotics for the pic. Sorry, I can't remember who sent it to me (Ryan?)
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  15. RAMMER

    RAMMER Formula 3

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    As many of you know, my car's engine exploded due to a sodium valve that broke. I have been without the car for a long time. My engine is being rebuilt as we speak. Yes, I became the guy with the "worst case scenario". That said.....I would do it all over again cause 308s are awesome!
     
  16. climb

    climb F1 Rookie

    Sep 19, 2006
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    *sings*

    Money talks
    But it don't sing and dance
    And it don't walk
     
  17. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    May 4, 2001
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    I have that 308/F1 poster framed in my man cave. One of my favorites
     
  18. greg 19425

    greg 19425 Formula 3

    Jan 6, 2011
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    Rammer, so sorry to hear about your baby. If you get to Phoenix you can drive mine for a fix anytime. Hope your on the road soon.
     
  19. Tim Wells

    Tim Wells Formula Junior

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    Great attitude! Hope the rebuild comes in under budget and ahead of schedule.
     
  20. RAMMER

    RAMMER Formula 3

    Feb 20, 2004
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    Yeah and if I had an additional 3 inches I would be a male porno star:)


     
  21. RAMMER

    RAMMER Formula 3

    Feb 20, 2004
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    The 308 Familia! Thanks bro!
     
  22. curtisc63

    curtisc63 Formula 3
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    Dec 13, 2005
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    With a name like Rammer you aren't??? ;)
     
  23. davebdave

    davebdave Formula 3
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    Mar 18, 2007
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    #48 davebdave, Oct 10, 2012
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2012

    That definitely eats it! However, I bought an airplane when I was 20 and had no business buying an airplane. I couldn't afford it. It change my life.

    Moral to all..Swing it any which way you can!!!

    Dave

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  24. VF1Skullangel

    VF1Skullangel Formula Junior

    Nov 22, 2008
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    San Marcos, CA
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    Jay
    I'm not gonna lie, My broke azz has thought of buying one and doing the whole 288GTO conversion with some kind of motor swap in black or dark grapite. My only beef with the 308 is its slower than my 3.8 Camaro and Fiero GT and its far more expensive to maintain.

    And at 25 to 35k hmmmm the Lotus Esprit and Acura NSX is also some damn good options in those price ranges.
     
  25. WilD

    WilD Karting

    Jan 20, 2011
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    Matt
    Porsche 911 as well, not to mention about a dozen other models I could name. This is the biggest hurddle to my taking the plunge. I am not a person of unlimitted means, so I need to choose what I buy carefully. Plus, shopping and dreaming is a big part of the fun. :D
     

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