People were looking at me like I was making up stories, so I found some Winton lap times. Enjoy. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I might add that none of the cars, apart from 360challenge, were on slicks. Either road or "R" tyres....and it was technology of 10 years ago!! Take some lessons, people! gee....it sounds like I'm being mean....but I'm not. I remember John Bowe doing one lap in my car with me as a passenger and doing either a low 35 or maybe even a 34. My weight in the car is worth at least a second, and he wasn't even trying. So, what would a road oriented 355ch get with a good driver at Winton? Probably a 32 or 33, and that's not on slicks. Something to aim for! SD's 360 time was in his Modena. Standard road car apart from a muffler, lowered a bit (but standard springs/shocks) and Hoosiers. A CS on modern "R" tyres would HAVE to be 2 seconds faster, and a Scuderia on "R" tyres SURELY another 2 seconds again. Gee you guys are lucky SD and I retired hehehehe...just kidding...sort of.
You're being too harsh again PP! Winton has a deteriorated surface, lots of patches and at least one strip of hotmix has been relaid, so has a different composition to the others. Also, the gutter across the main straight just after the start finish line has sunk about 5cm over the years. Easy to see why people recorded better times 10 years ago - it's a bloody goat track now. Even more reason to respect the times that were achieved yesterday. I talked to a local who said the council won't fund a resurface, despite the millions of dollars the circuit brings to the area each year. No votes in motor racing.
Really? Yet the times I see for other track days over the years have improved (I'm sure because of tyre technology) I'll look into it further. Meanwhile, final times from yesterday http://racing.natsoft.com.au/635937046/object_25314976.98J/View?2
lol...yes he did relative times don't seem to have slowed to me. http://racing.natsoft.com.au/635938534/object_8155696.98Q/View?19 2001 http://racing.natsoft.com.au/635938911/object_8297424.98K/View?1 2011 http://racing.natsoft.com.au/635938911/object_8351808.98D/View?23
those links don't work...how weird. Porsche this year M1 Class 1 22 Steven McLaughlan (1) GT3 Mk1 3.6 M1 S6 1:31.2357* 2 111 Matthew Stoupas (1) 996 GT3 M1 S1 1:31.4509 0:00.2152 3 11 Bob Hawker (3) 996 GT3 M1 S14 1:32.2875 0:01.0518 4 8 Jamie Lovett (1) 933 GT2 M1 S14 1:33.3703 0:02.1346 5 34 Theo Mihelakos (2) 996 GT3 M1 S15 1:34.3554 0:03.1197 6 45 Stan Bougadakis (1) 997 Carrera S 3.8 M1 S1 1:35.1906 0:03.9549 7 40 Tony Carolan (2) GT3 3.6 M1 S2 1:36.7390 0:05.5033 8 24 Andrew Goulsbra (2) 944 2.5 Turbo S (951 M1 S2 1:38.2218 0:06.9861 Holden HQs 2001 1 8 N.Corey/B.Heinrich Neil Corey HQ HOLDEN 3300 63 02:00:35.5185 55 1:47.4729* 2 21 R.Gay/N.Haley Autotrac/Richard Gay HQ HOLDEN 3300 63 02:00:41.7156 56 1:48.4594 3 77 R.Whyte/M.Fitzgerald M & M's/Michael Fitzgerald HQ HOLDEN 3300 63 02:01:06.6257 59 1:48.8701 4 73 P.Holmes/D.Ling David Ling HQ HOLDEN 3300 63 02:01:26.5585 29 1:48.7560 5 20 D.Orr/M.Wicks Butch Jones Racing/Daniel Orr HQ HOLDEN 3300 63 02:01:32.7719 7 1:48.1213 6 32 G.Harris/D.Reinhardt Geoff Harris HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:01.9080 56 1:50.0476 7 5 A.Nowland/G.Thomson Graham Thomson Motors HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:11.2663 56 1:48.8798 8 30 J.Alessi/D.Landry John Alessi HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:14.4343 62 1:48.9114 9 88 G.Brown/T.Evangelou Geoff Brown HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:37.3637 9 1:49.5823 10 97 J.Shiel/D.Tatnell Damond Builders/Justin Shiel HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:38.3578 10 1:49.2240 11 67 T.Lindorff/P.Brown Mr B Screenprinting/Peter Brow HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:40.4638 15 1:49.1166 12 59 D.Best/B.Murphy David Best HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:41.2918 51 1:49.4547 13 92 D.Keleher/J.Agosta Entire Cabinets & Joinery HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:42.9574 28 1:49.3237 14 6 D.Astley/J.Gaspero Statewide Kitchens/David Astle HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:01:54.2420 14 1:49.1386 15 44 D.Bone/M.O'Keefe Carrick Hoarding Hire Pty. Ltd HQ HOLDEN 3300 62 02:02:35.3335 7 1:49.5440 16 51 B.Niclasen/P.Bongiorno Brendan Niclasen HQ HOLDEN 3300 61 02:00:44.4777 41 1:49.1668 17 86 C.McHenry/G.Stewart Garry Stewart HQ HOLDEN 3300 61 02:01:12.7102 16 1:49.2857 18 91 R.Butler/G.Porteous Coromal Caravans/Rob Butler HQ HOLDEN 3300 61 02:01:35.8249 28 1:50.1604 19 82 K.Stoopman/A.Williams Blackburn Trailers/Keven Stoop HQ HOLDEN 3300 61 02:01:37.5036 59 1:50.2346 20 52 M.Walker/G.Gilliland DART Racing/Mark Walker/David HQ HOLDEN 3300 61 02:01:39.4004 13 1:49.2193 21 47 G.Lee/R.Fairlam Glen Lee HQ HOLDEN 3300 61 02:01:53.6442 15 1:49.0347 22 99 S.McMurray/P.Flaimer Stuart McMurray HQ HOLDEN 3300 61 02:01:58.3876 41 1:50.9709 23 84 S.Fifield/D.Bode Shane Fifield HQ HOLDEN 3300 60 02:00:17.6198 17 1:49.0698 24 7 D.Crane/D.Youd Dallas Crane HQ HOLDEN 3300 60 02:00:44.7157 29 1:51.1259 25 9 A.Brown/D.Yates Mercbits/Robert Southouse HQ HOLDEN 3300 60 02:01:33.0465 25 1:50.2935 26 18 E.Woods/B.Woods Robert Southouse HQ HOLDEN 3300 60 02:02:33.8057 49 1:52.5930 27 79 R.Gregory/S.Lambrick Ross Gregory HQ HOLDEN 3300 60 02:02:36.1268 49 1:52.5979 28 27 S.Whyte/M.Doxey Stephen Whyte HQ HOLDEN 3300 59 01:58:28.2291 15 1:51.8533 29 28 J.Lusty/P.Bell Peter Bell HQ HOLDEN 3300 59 02:01:11.4932 8 1:53.7879 30 60 G.Moore/W.Moore Blastrite Services HQ HOLDEN 3300 59 02:01:13.6770 2 1:52.6139 31 1 G.McDonald/B.Avard Pedder's Shock Absorber Servic HQ HOLDEN 3300 59 02:01:52.1375 9 1:49.4783 32 22 P.Prince/L.Gates Philip Prince HQ HOLDEN 3300 58 02:01:56.5196 40 1:52.1001 33 61 J.Moore/K.Wright Blastrite Services/Wayne Moore HQ HOLDEN 3300 56 01:48:28.6623 3 1:48.2759 34 16 P.Boehm/W.King City Dismantlers/Peter Boehm HQ HOLDEN 3300 56 01:50:18.4023 15 1:49.3303 35 96 D.Page/G.Raleigh Workplacement HQ HOLDEN 3300 56 01:52:41.6000 5 1:50.8009 36 46 B.Collins/P.Pennisi Bradley Collins HQ HOLDEN 3300 56 02:01:03.6252 51 1:50.1886 37 42 F.Lange/S.Lange Fred De Lange HQ HOLDEN 3300 55 02:01:48.8988 37 1:50.2769 38 24 S.Cox/J.Hoy DART Racing/Shane Cox/David Am HQ HOLDEN 3300 55 02:02:11.3073 48 1:51.9459 39 69 B.Bowden/R.Pichut Brett Bowden HQ HOLDEN 3300 51 02:00:54.0513 3 1:51.4617 40 41 R.Harris/R.Lang R & G Total Car Care/Rob Harri HQ HOLDEN 3300 50 01:40:54.5848 4 1:48.7684 41 10 G.Boulter/M.Boulter VIP Motors/Graham Boulter HQ HOLDEN 3300 49 02:01:55.3628 36 1:50.8041 42 93 D.Bennett/T.Moulden Bennett Bros. Paint & Panel/Da HQ HOLDEN 3300 47 02:01:57.9569 6 1:51.0904 43 49 J.Sparks/C.Belling Jason Sparks HQ HOLDEN 3300 43 01:54:41.0639 15 1:51.1251 44 72 L.Unsworth/G.Barnes Leigh Unsworth HQ HOLDEN 3300 32 01:04:34.1674 19 1:51.3003 45 29 N.Blight/P.Voight Mark Wicks HQ HOLDEN 3300 3 10:47.3990 3 2:01.2640 46 12 D.Brown/R.Brown John Brown HQ HOLDEN 3300 1 3:51.1379 1 3:51.1379 Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 100kph, Race Av.Speed Is 94kph R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Issue# 1 - Printed Tue Nov 20 13:40:40 2001 Timing System By NATSOFT (03)63342353 www.natsoft.com.au/results & Dorian DATA-1 Timing By :- Ian Leech, CompuLink Electronics - 03 5443 6073 Holden HQs 2011 Practice Issue 1 Page # 1 ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Pos Car Competitor/Team Driver Vehicle Cap CL Fastest...Lap Gap 1 8 Neil Corey N.Corey/B.Heinrich Holden HQ P3 1:46.5567* 2 179 Batteries Direct / Dynalign M.Lovell/P.Holmes Holden HQ P3 1:47.4353 0:00.8786 3 81 David Ling D.Ling/S.Ling Holden HQ P3 1:48.5365 0:01.9798 4 82 A.McLeod/K.Stoopman Holden HQ P3 1:49.4214 0:02.8647 5 23 Pattwell/A.Brown Holden HQ P3 1:49.4425 0:02.8858 6 41 J.Agosta/C.Agosta Holden HQ P1 1:49.5511 0:02.9944 7 77 Richard Whyte M.Fitzgerald/R.Whyte Holden HQ P3 1:49.6599 0:03.1032 8 12 J.Bell/S.Bell Holden HQ P1 1:49.6974 0:03.1407 9 67 Peter Brown H.Ivers/P.Brown Holden HQ P1 1:49.8680 0:03.3113 10 16 Mansfield Motors Peter McNeil Holden HQ P1 1:50.1224 0:03.5657 11 46 W.Tiriania/M.George Holden HQ P3 1:50.9430 0:04.3863 12 20 M.Tessari/J.Symes Holden HQ P3 1:50.9836 0:04.4269 13 56 Mansfield Motors Damien Tatnell Holden HQ P1 1:51.5806 0:05.0239 14 99 T.Moloney/D.Orr Holden HQ P1 1:51.6612 0:05.1045 15 74 David Hoggins C.Beers/A.Schultz Holden HQ P3 1:53.8990 0:07.3423 Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 101kph, 130% Of First 1 Is 2:18.5237 R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Issue# 1 - Printed Sat Dec 3 11:20:28 2011 Timing System By NATSOFT (03)63431311 www.natsoft.com.au/results & Dorian DATA-1 Timing by :- Timetronics Pty Ltd - 03 5443 6073
Standard Porsche class this year. B Class - 6.71 to 7.51 1 21 Peter Harrison (2) 964 C2 3.6 B S2 1:37.0851* 2 150 Rick Moscati (2) 964 C2 B S18 1:38.1770 0:01.0919 3 968 Glenn Cook (2) 968 CS 3.0 B S7 1:38.3761 0:01.2910 4 31 Bill Sevastas (2) 964 C2 B S2 1:38.8381 0:01.7530 5 14 Marcus Lethlean (2) 964 C2 3.6 B S18 1:39.7200 0:02.6349 6 44 Ron Widdison (3) 911 Club Sport 3.2 B S8 1:44.3424 0:07.2573 7 29 Hugh Ellis (5) 964 B S9 1:46.9088 0:09.8237 8 58 Mark Behan (5) 911 Carrera B S5 1:51.2569 0:14.1718 R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ C Class - 7.52 to 8.39 1 1 Aaron Ireland (1) 911 SC 3.0 C S1 1:36.3676* 2 93 Simon Dunn (2) 911 SC 3.0 C S2 1:38.1255 0:01.7579 3 74 Pete Matherson (2) 911 SC 3.0 C S15 1:39.9404 0:03.5728 4 43 Michael O'Brien (5) 911 SC 3.0 C S9 1:42.4131 0:06.0455 5 49 Ian van Driel (5) 911 SC 3.0 C S13 1:43.6012 0:07.2336 6 23 Wayne Kenafacke (5) Boxster C S9 1:45.5365 0:09.1689 7 64 Barry Swan (3) 968 Sport C S8 1:46.1589 0:09.7913 8 17 Bonnie Swan (5) Boxster 2.7 C S17 1:53.2363 0:16.8687
Speaking of the track not being slower than it was 10 years ago, did you see Brett's lap time? even with 45psi, he did a 1.44
so, nothing inside the car but a wooden box for the driver to sit on, no a/c, no door handles, no carpets, no radio, no glovebox, no bumpers, no muffler .......
I raced there over 10 yrs ago and my last race there was in 2011 and its been a goat track for that entire time, I'm pretty sure its a privately owned track, (same people own Wakefield I believe but could be wrong) so maybe a resurface is up to them, which it looked like the short track has been done. With the National Formula Xtreme championships earlier this month the lap records were broken in three of the five classes. Mind you in saying that from what I saw everyone was having a ball which is what its all about, and some very nice vehicles.
I actually looked for you near your car (I think), and spoke to Brett in between his sprints, I was sitting on the wooden table for a while in front of the canteen, but after I watched a round I decided it was a great day for lunch a the Bonnie Doon pub, which had cold beer but no cook :-( Then drove back through Yea and Whittlesea.
Fair enough. It was a bit warm to be sitting around at Winton I must admit. Funny about no cook. ...and sounds like a better drive home than the one I had on the good old Hume.
Has Mr Pee Pee had an epiphany? He seems just so noice, obliging and polite. Even nice to the devil incarnate himself, Mr Oil Gate. What gives? Is it something in the water up at Winton?
