Vettel thinks RB has established "mythical status" like Ferrari

Cue the favoritism turds.

 

Red Bull Facebook fans: 34,661,255

 

Ouch lol!!!! That fast 'billboard' of a car is doing well

 

Scuderia Ferrari only shows 272,803

Since we're comparing team for team now, and not company for company.

 

Never bring facts into an internet argument on a web forum.

Lotta sour grapes in this thread, and that makes bad tasting wine.

I do not think Alonso is the hero some people here make him out to be. I'll be glad when he's gone from Ferrari. I wish Ferrari would take a chance on a young immature driver - its some of those young drivers in their past that put them where they are today. Red Bull put a young driver in their seat, and that young driver has been getting championships!

 

Lets be honest here, yes I know completely impossible, but there is nothing mythical about any thing relating to Ferrari or F1. There are no myths. There is a company that races among others that race. It doesnt matter what or who it is or what they make.
I like F1 with or without Ferrari.
Actually this post and the Vettel comedic post are about the only sour grapes I see. Most rational people here accept that Vettel actually won the title. That is not a myth.

 

Thankfully people like you aren't running the team! They'd be back in the dark ages in no time.

 

F1 without Ferrari would be severely cripped. Bernie knows this.

Whether "you" like Ferrari in F1 or not is completely irrelevant, because Ferrari is VERY important to F1's well being. On the other hand if Red Bull left no one would give a damn.

That says it all.

 

Don't think for a second that I'm considering RB is becoming as popular as Ferrari. Will never happen.

I just shared one pointless fact with another.

I'm not sure where you're seeing sour grapes for us Vettel fans, YOU are the one putting up Anti Can/Vettel threads (at least the suggestion of it).

 

Up to now, I've only replied to posts.

Here is what I think.

To reach the status Ferrari has done:

They will need to make a road going super car like Ferrari and Mclaren have done. They currently have Red Bull brand super cars in Gran Turismo 5. They need to make a real deal street legal car beyond just video games. Accomplished? No.

They need to win several back to back championships, this kind of domination, rather than one and done, helps a team be remembered even if they have a long drought. Accomplished? - Yes.

They need more than one iconic driver. Accomplished? No.(Vettel, when we look back at him in history, will definitely count!!! Until he's replaced/retired, or has an equal co-driver with an epic battle, Red Bull will be a no on this one)

They need sustained periods with the same livery/color. Accomplished? Yes

They need to of won championships more than ten years apart. Accomplished? No

They need at least twenty five years of involvement in F1. Accomplished? No

They need cars with an innovation that puts them on top(Ferrari's Transverse gear box flat 12, RB's exhaust blown diffuser). Accomplished? Yes

They need to have a driver fighting for a championship from an inferior car. Accomplished? Maybe (2009 made me take notice of them for the first time with the battle with Brawn GP, RB had the inferior car. Not a resounding yes to this item IMO.)

Given the above, I think Vettel is correct in what he said - they aren't there, but if he sticks with the team, and the team sticks around, and they keep competing well, they will be on the way.

Problem is - will Red Bull still be in the team name twenty years from now?

 

BFF. Yea ok Paris.

 

"Legendary" would have been a better word as it relates to sports for instance "Walter Payton NFL Legend and Hall of Famer". "Mythical Status" fits the context of..."Well sir, the Ferrari reached Status 70 then turned into a unicorn."

 

The fact that some of you might loose interest in F1 without Ferrari does not mean that this is the end of F1...
Without doubt Ferrari is the F1 team with the most tradition and more "hardcore-fans" than any other F1 team but the way F1 developed in the last years would work without Ferrari as well.
In the last years the F1 calender expanded to more and more countries that have no F1 (or racing in general) tradition and there you can not attract visitors with names (including Ferrari) but just with an entertaining spectacle. With the race calender twenty years ago an exit of Ferrari would have been worse.
But this is just my opinion, I doubt that we will ever find out as I can not imagine Ferrari leaving F1. I think from all manufacturers Ferrari is bound the most to F1 in terms of marketing, a Mercedes would sell without F1 as well...

 

Check out how much red there is in the stands at ANY track, I don't care if it's Monza or Korea.

Ferrari doesn't just have more "hardcore fans," it completely dwarfs any other team's fan base. Ferrari leaving would be a crippling blow and Bernie knows it.

 

First of all I agree that it would be a loss but I doubt it would be the end of F1, that is all I say.
And regarding the fans: First of all Ferraristi tend to be more receptive for merchandising than many others so it is no surprise that you see so much red. But I would not say that all of them are really fans. I know many people in my circle of friends you would call themselves Ferrari fan but some of them would be surprised to learn that the Scuderia existed before the arrival of Schumacher (certainly a German phenonemon). Furthermore I doubt that they know anything on the Mille Miglia, Targa Florio, a Ferrari 250 GTO or names like Ascari, von Trips, Hill and Hawthorne who formed the "myth" of Ferrari.
And with "hardcore fans" I mean people who tend to see just Ferrari and nothing else, and although I think Ferrari has built some of the most desirable cars of all time some should notice that there is a life outside of Maranello. But maybe here I am at the wrong place with an opinion like that...