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'88 3.2 caught in rain, no start

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Dizengoff, Dec 2, 2012.

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  1. AMA328

    AMA328 F1 Rookie

    Nov 12, 2002
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    ...the (easy) way I verified it was the starter was to do a push start...

    Well, I -suppose- you could got get you a friend or two :)
    Or, temporarily acquire a couple for about 30 secs or so...

    Actually, these cars aren't all that hard to push start on you own - just a little rolling forward and shove it into 2nd gear is all it usually takes. Or, you could do as I did back in my poverty days with my POS car - I'd always park it on a slight incline with a path forward so'ze I could push start it very easily...
     
  2. afwrench

    afwrench Formula Junior

    Nov 24, 2004
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    Based on the video the solenoid is engaging and the starter is cranking. It is not the battery kill switch. You need to check for spark and or fuel while someone cranks the engine . Check in a systematic way ,please dont just start changing parts and chasing ghosts. Mike
     
  3. tonyhemet

    tonyhemet Karting

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    #28 tonyhemet, Dec 10, 2012
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2012
    I never use jackstands.
    Jackstands are for amateurs.
    Or those that don't mind getting squished like a bug when the car falls off.
    I use wheel ramps.
    I use one ramp at each wheel.
    I point each ramp inboard, that way the car can't roll forward or backward.
    I also set the parking brake.
    Use a hydraulic floor jack to lift the car.
    You got a scissors jack ?, Throw that in the trash.
    As for cable.
    Is that the hot cable that goes from the battery voltage straight to the starter ?
    If it is, shouldn't it be red ?
    Black indicates negative while red indicates positive.
    That flimsy connector looks like a weak link.
    I would run a straight cable from point A to B.
    I would use extra length and route it away from any exhaust components.
    And don't use that cheesey stuff they sell at autozone
    Buy something decent, like what they sell at Napa or summit racing.
    Tony
     
  4. jgoodman

    jgoodman F1 Rookie
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    I'm sorry. You are correct. I missed that video before I posted my 0.02
     
  5. Dizengoff

    Dizengoff Formula Junior

    Nov 24, 2011
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    Guys, as the post says: that video is from the LAST TIME the car was caught in the rain. No starter engage this time. None. There's 12.3-ish volts at the starter. That's why I suspect the solenoid.
     
  6. Dizengoff

    Dizengoff Formula Junior

    Nov 24, 2011
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    #31 Dizengoff, Dec 16, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
    ...through the wheel well. I've been messing with this for the last few hours. Heat shield seems to be attached to the header mount, although the bottom of the shield isn't attached to the block. The clutch slave and the motor mount are both in the way. I can wiggle the starter mount past the clutch slave, but then the motor mount blocks the solenoid from moving. I've tried everything I can think of; I don't see how this thing can come out unless the engine comes out.

    For those who have done this, what's the trick? Normally I wouldn't mind paying someone else to do this job, but I know they're gonna try to tack on a bunch of unnecessary repairs just to pad the bill. It's the Chicago way.
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  7. volkster999

    volkster999 Karting

    Sep 22, 2005
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    Can't help you with getting the starter out, but FWIW I have had similar symptoms and the problem each time turned out to be either loose or corroded connections. Each time there was no obvious signs of being loose or corroded but by taking apart each connection and wire brushing or light sanding and then re-attaching and ensuring a tight connection… problem solved. Remember to do this for both the hot and ground sides all the way to the battery terminals, including the engine ground strap. It's easy to forget the battery terminals but I had one instance where that is exactly what the issue was, even though there seemed to be no visible issue. Good luck.
     

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