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Last year for manual transmission in F1 cars

Discussion in 'F1' started by E60 M5, Dec 27, 2012.

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  1. texasmr2

    texasmr2 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    We all have an opinion, right?
     
  2. mousecatcher

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    Well, barely. NASCAR uses TBI, which is barely fuel injection. So they are still at least 20 years behind.
     
  3. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

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    The transmission in an F1 car bears little resemblance to the Ferrari F1 gearbox in a road car, where your statement is true. The semi auto gearbox in an F1 car is designed for computer-controlled shifting, it's not an add-on. They are expensive. (Still, dwarfed by the cost of aero development.)
     
  4. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Err yes he did. He did 1991/92 with the stick shift. I have 1992 Monaco GP on VHS tape somewhere. He was very frantic in that race :eek:

    Here he is in Spain.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBFgXVIKYs[/ame]
     
  5. Aircon

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    awesome.
     
  6. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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    oops Estorial is in Portugal :eek:
     
  7. Nice Peter

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    Definitely
     
  8. Isobel

    Isobel F1 World Champ

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    Thanks for posting Speedster and a mega thanks for posting all your links throughout 2012! Of course, Happy New Year to the Saturday/Sunday 3 am Usual Suspects crew....;)

    This video reminds me in part why my favourite decade was '82-'91. Lauda, Jones, Gilles, Prost, Senna, Mansell, Alesi, Hakkinen and naturally the Shoe. Even Mario was in a race or two...;). Missing those missed shifts...;)
     
  9. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1

    Happy new year to all.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  10. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Indeed. Absolutely correct.

    However, while they're now *tiny* examples of very tight packaging, the basics remain the same - A few rods that stir the cogs on demand - They can make 'em small & "delicate" as they know there's never gonna be a ham-fisted jockey trying to "force" any shifts.......

    They'd actually make 'em smaller yet but the FIA mandates a minimum gear width of 7mm (IIRC - may be 5mm?) - If allowed, they'd go below that to make 'em even smaller.

    In case anyone missed it - Here's some gearbox porn; http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354678

    Very pretty! ;)

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  11. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    My bad; Minimum is now 12mm [From the porno thread ;)]

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  12. starboy444

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    Schumi raced in 1991 and early 1992 with the Benetton B191B car... which was changed with the B192 car shortly after a few races into the 1992 season. The B191 and B192 were both manual transmission.

    The B193 car was then changed to paddle shifting for the 1993 season.
     
  13. nsxrebel

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    This thread should be renamed and/or the term "manual" should be clarified. As far as I know, all Formula 1 cars have always been manual, even today's cars are manual. Even in the "last days of manual", the transmissions were still sequential. Only instead of having one paddle for upshift, and one for downshift, the driver either pushed up or down on the shifter. Now I don't know when the H pattern was last used in F1.
     
  14. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I always liked CART's SMG trannys. It allowed for quick shifts, but also posed somewhat of a challenge to the driver having to move his hand from the wheel.

    Not a fan of the flappy paddles..
     
  15. E60 M5

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    Is it just me or does he have a yellow light on the top of the dash signifying when to shift up and down?? You can see it light up just be for his up shifts and it is on when he misses the down shift. Thoughts?
     
  16. TifosiUSA

    TifosiUSA F1 Veteran

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    The shift light comes on when the car is in a rev range high enough to require an upshift. When he downshifts and utilizes engine braking, it lights up again because the revs are high enough to back in that zone.

    In short, yes, it is an aid to let the driver know he is near the rev limiter.
     

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