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What is top dollar for a pristine 355?

Discussion in '348/355' started by nathandarby67, Jan 11, 2013.

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  1. stevew3765

    stevew3765 Formula Junior

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    If it were mine 10k. lol Just kidding. +1 Just to many variables for an accurate answer. Of coarse accurate would be subjective here anyway wouldn't it? :>) It's worth what it's worth till it's not....
     
  2. Splitting Atoms

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    Why is the 95 model preferred over a 99?
     
  3. Dave rocks

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    Here we go again....it's a matter of opinion...I'd rather have a late model (99), but other prefer 4 more HP lol
     
  4. Splitting Atoms

    Splitting Atoms Formula 3

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    OK. I thought it might be a design issue such as the 1999 360s being preferred by some due to the lack of pre-cats.
     
  5. jimmym

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    I would say between 60 -70. My car is a 95 GTB. It has low mileage. No valve guides had been done. I had a PPI and a compression/leakdown test before purchase. All numbers were very good. Currently having custom headers made as a preventive measure. Is this car at a dealership? Have the car checked out. If things look good. Roll the dice.
     
  6. jimmym

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    Less electronics. Can eliminate cats without CEL's.
     
  7. jimmym

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    Headers are not that big a deal. If the ones on the car are ok, this will buy you a little time to figure out what you want to do. I would either have a custom set done(currently having a set finished) or purchase a set from Ricambi which are rebuilt by JPExhausts. There is a picture of my headers in the 355 headers thread. Feel free to PM if you like for details.
     
  8. roadracer311

    roadracer311 Formula 3

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    I know of two Spiders which have sold for $75k or more in the last 3 years. The one that sold in Monterey last Summer, and one other in 2010.
     
  9. treedee3d

    treedee3d F1 Rookie

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    A lot of knowledgeable Fcar guys seem to prefer the 95 because it has an extra 5-10 hp more and it's easier to modify. It has the Obd1 emissions settings as opposed to Obd2.
     
  10. andyw355

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    Mint 355s in Australia are 150k+ !! We get raped with taxes duties and pretty much everything over here!
     
  11. sdbmwfxr

    sdbmwfxr Karting

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    #36 sdbmwfxr, Jan 12, 2013
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    As one poster said, it is worth what someone is willing to pay. You are trying to figure out a price that 'you' should pay for this car and that should hinge on what your goals are for ownership of a 355 along with the current owner's flexibility on price.

    The most valuable of the 355's is always going to be a 1995 GTB. The horsepower is a moot point as you really aren't going to feel the difference. The major reason for wanting OBDI is that you can extract any sort of engine codes in the comfort of your garage with a somewhat simple push of a button. Otherwise it is off to the dealer or service center of your liking to get the information. You can also remove the cats, which for me is not about horsepower gains as much as it is about preserving the cats for future use. It also helps keep the heat down a bit in the engine bay. Lastly, there is no security system keyfob to worry about, that would annoy me to no end.

    Remember that there are always two types of 355's on the market. Some are 'for sale' and some are actually for sale and the owner actually wants to get the car off their hands. Figure out which category this particular car falls into. If it is the former, you are going to pay much more.

    Find out what the owner needs to get out of it and make your decision from there. Know also that while the mileage is low and it seems perfect, there are a decent amount of expensive devils coming your way.

    Good Luck.
     
  12. GerryD

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    #37 GerryD, Jan 12, 2013
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    Like ive said, it takes a couple of years to find the "right" one therefor finding 5 perfect examples sold in the last year is unlikely at any price.
    Another thing that many seem to forget is that the best 355s never make it to the public market but are sold amongst friends and friends of mechanics. The shop I hang around is one of the best and there are people that want to buy my car in a second. If I put mine up for sale, nobody would ever see it on the net.
     
  13. GerryD

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    There are more reasons but people learn that while they own one. The challenge cars are all 2.7 even the ones built by the factory in later years....mmmm I wonder why.
     
  14. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I was thinking $70k-$75k
     
  15. jimmym

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    Nicely stated.
     
  16. treedee3d

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    There is a way to figure out the value of the 355 market and it's just like Real Estate. the "for sale" means nothing because a seller can ask whatever they want for their car.

    What needs to be analyzed is the actual price "sold" of all the comparable 355s to the one you want to buy and that's what the market value is.

    Sounds easy enough right? However, the reason why we have so many discussions on value is that Ferraris are not like everyday production cars and there's very little of them and very few sold in a period of 6 months so having access to this info is difficult.

    Luckily, there is Fchat which helps a lot but still can't give all the answers...
     
  17. GerryD

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    Agreed on most points. If you drive one without cats(straight pipes)....there is a differance and it can be felt as well as heard. Also the addition of straight pipes and advancement of timing will eliminate the dangers of the clogging cats which also destroy your headers > engine. The 2.7 will enable you to re-chip your car to run the way it was built to run. These (and there are other mods) modifications or lets say retuning the car to what it was designed to do will give you seat of the pants gains and will put you well over 400 cavalinos. Doing this with a 5.2 will turn your dash into a christmas tree.
     
  18. Steve355F1

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    Whatever you do, don't buy into the malarkey of "you must buy a '95!"

    A few "I'm more knowledgeable than you are" types will try to tell you different.
    But they're only saying that to justify their own purchases. The truth is there is no real world difference.
    The people who REALLY know what they're talking about will tell you that there is NO significant difference between the years in terms of power, and the fact is the vast majority of future buyers will value "newer" over some mythical magic of a certain year.

    Bottom line: buy the car that is in the spec you want and is in the best condition you can afford. Ignore the other crap and buy the car YOU want, whether it happens to be a '95 or a '99 is not relevant.

    :)
     
  19. SoCal1

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    100% agree. ^^^^^

    Only reason I chose a 97 is the OBD2 system. Just so easy to work on from my simple minded hook the computer up to it and work on it point of view. Just personal preference I love the port. What do I know been working professionally on cars since 1976.


    :)
     
  20. 05011994

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    You might want to ask Dave Helms which one he would buy with his own money.
     
  21. JSL

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    I'm sure Dave would want to buy my 97 that I bought from Serpa23 (Ryan) several years ago! He did the valves, headers a major and more. But, then again, mine isn't for sale! :)
     
  22. Challenge

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    There are these things called code readers you can buy for less than $50. Makes the process just as easy as ODBI. Certainly more specific, in terms of code definitions, causes and solutions that the more expensive units provide.

    Sorry, given the same GTB--1995 through 1999--why would anyone want the oldest one??
     
  23. PorscheGuy

    PorscheGuy Formula Junior

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    I would pay top dollar for a gated GTS...
     
  24. 355rockit

    355rockit Formula Junior

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    The 1994/1995 2.7 have two O2 sensors while the 1996-1999 5.2 have four O2 sensors. There is a single airflow to each bank of 4 cylinders compared to 2-1-2 for 5.2. This gives the 1994/1995 a better engine note IMHO. The 2.7 does have two MAF compared to one for 5.2. All years are great, but I bought a 1995 due to the 2.7 ecu, amazing sound and easier access to engine components from the top without having to take the air intake apart.
     
  25. Turbo Ron

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    #50 Turbo Ron, Jan 12, 2013
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    What is top dollar for this 99 355 Gated GTS 17000 miles. Full engine out service two month ago. 4 year 40000 mile warrantee just taken out. Factory Optional Clutch Cooler/Ceramic Headers/Tubi Exhaust/Gruppe M Carbon fiber Air Intake/Competition ECU/Carbon Fiber Center Console and Door Sills/Sport Steering Wheel and Factory Wheel/Clear Bra. New leather Seats with yellow sticking/etc. etc.http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1642728&stc=1&d=1358034665http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1642729&stc=1&d=1358034665http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1642730&stc=1&d=1358034665http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1642731&stc=1&d=1358034665http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1642733&stc=1&d=1358034858http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1642734&stc=1&d=1358034858http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1642735&stc=1&d=1358034858http://ferrarichat.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1642736&stc=1&d=1358034858
     

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