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Paint Matching Touchup Paint

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  1. peterp

    peterp F1 Veteran

    Aug 31, 2002
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    I am looking to have touch-up paint matched to existing paint (I don't have codes for). I've heard people talk about going to a paint shop to have them mix up a batch for a fairly nominal fee, but I stopped by a couple local paint shops (NJ) and they seemed pretty surprised by the question and had no interest in just creating touch-up paint.

    My question is: is there a national chain (or a local shop in North NJ) that offers a service to color-match touchup paint?

    Also, can't help but wonder if there is an iphone app for matching automotive paint (similar to those offered by Sherwin Williams, Behr, ...) that match paint based upon an iphone photo. I didn't see an automotive paint app in a brief search, but that would be nice to have (not sure how well those actually work though).
     
  2. vincep99

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    Sherwin-Williams (automotive) or PPG should be able to do it. That having been said I went to my NAPA and had them do it. I buy a lot there and they know me, so it was no charge. You bring in the part you want to match and then they mix a little, check out the match, then they vary the tint components until they get it just right. When they are done they print out a label with the component mix % and also the amount of metallic (you can vary size and amount of metallic particles), asuming you are using metallic.
     
  3. cheesey

    cheesey Formula 3

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    a thing to remember when ordering paint from an original formula, is that all paint fades, making a perfect match difficult, in spite of an exact formula, the longer the car has been around. It just the nature of paint, touch ups for chips are an interim step and less offensive than a raw chip left exposed to the elements.
     
  4. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

    Feb 15, 2001
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    I had to get some touch up paint back about 5-6 years ago. We have an auto paint dealer in our area . I went to the shop and they took a camera (PPG unit I think) and took a picture on a flat spot on the rear deck. They went inside and plugged the camera into the computer. It printed a code of numbers out. They pulled 3 or 4 colors off of their shelf and put a cup full into a mixing machine. Pressed the button and it pre-mixed me a pint (min order) of the exact match. I believe it cost me $10-$15 and they even gave me a small touch up bottle with it. One of my auto body friends uses a laser system to match the paint. With this they need to measure and mix by hand then do a test sample. It works good but they were not interested in mixing me a pint of paint. When I had the underside of my doors repaired they mixed up a quart and gave me what was left over. Look some more you should have a paint store somewhere. I suspect the procedure has improved over time.
     
  5. Arnie

    Arnie Formula Junior

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    Steve King is correct. They use a spectrophotometer to take the picture and the computer comes up with the right mix. In my experience they make you buy a quart of the paint. They guarantee a 99% match. You need to go to an auto paint store. Auto paint is very expensive.
     
  6. peterp

    peterp F1 Veteran

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    Thanks for all the feedback and apologies for the delay in responding, but I have been sick and just getting back to Fchat now.

    Vince -- thank you for your comments. I will definitely check out NAPA first since there are a couple around me. Mine is single stage nonmetallic paint, so it should be relatively easy to match by spectrograph.

    Thanks Steve, it sounds like your shop did exactly what I'm looking for. I'm in North NJ, not far from NYC. It would be great if you could share or PM the name of the shop you used in NY.
     
  7. colorinc

    colorinc Karting

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    I use dr colorchip for my ferrari and lambo around $40 perfect match ... They also give you a couple fine brushes
     
  8. FasterIsBetter

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    If your car is an original factory color, try paintscratch.com. I've had very good luck matching the red paint on the three Ferraris I've owned with them. I also had them do a computer match on an old Jaguar XKE I owned by sending them the gas filler cover. And I've gotten touch-up for my wife's Jaguar X-type, a Mercedes and several other new cars over the years. The touch-up in all cases was a spot-on match. You can get a small touch-up tube with a little brush, a spray can, or larger quantities. NAYYY, just a satisfied customer.
     
  9. peterp

    peterp F1 Veteran

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    Thanks Steve. I've used paintscratch.com before and was happy with them, but didn't see anything about them offering paint-matching on their website (I don't have paint codes). I may take the same approach and send them the gas cover if I can't find a local match.
     
  10. Steve King

    Steve King F1 Rookie

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    It may be a stretch because I am 60 miles north of NYC. I can get you the name of the shop but you'll need to come up here for the match. I'm sure there should be something closer to you.
     
  11. LmnsBlu355

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    Peter,

    Try Mielle Auto parts in Nanuet (or is it Pearl River), NY (not far from Bergen County, NJ). They can mix up paint to match if you bring a sample (I used the gas filler cap from an older corvette.). Perfect match. Thet are a paint dsupplier as well as auto parts.
     
  12. peterp

    peterp F1 Veteran

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    Thanks Steve. You're right, sounds too far from where I am.

    Thanks very much -- this is only about 30 minutes from me.

    I definitely have all the info I need at this point - it looks like I have several options based upon all the excellent feedback in this thread. It will take a little while before I can find time to remove the gas cap and get the paint matched, but I will report back once I've had a chance to do that.

    Thanks for all the help,
    Peter
     
  13. john360green

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    Its called Cromavison this is a special camra that they have at a paint- autobody supply

    store,you need to bring the car if you can because the top paneles might be a little off from

    the lower panel. when the do this the will give you a computer read out on the many driffert

    colors it thake your macth you car, then mixes are weight out on a scale in the 100s of a

    gram also after that you have to mix a chemical called base maker which is 50/50 with the

    paint you got from the autobody shop
     
  14. staatsof

    staatsof Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    I did this last summer for the car in my avatar. and I learned quite a lot in the process.
    Now mine is the original acrylic lacquer and a difficult fine grain metallic to match. So I had to travel a bit to find a paint supplier who carried that stock. I'm in the same basic area as you but no one in N. NJ that I could find dealt in acrylic lacquer.

    The place is called Colours and they do have shops in NJ so if your paint isn't something old like mine you might be able to go to a local shop. They have one in Hackensack. The one I used was in PA.

    In my case they didn't use the scanner and spent a couple hours doing it by eye. I had to drive the car there as there's nothing small I can remove for a match.

    What I didn't realize is that the mix for touch up is different than if you're trying to spray and blend. At least it was for my paint color.



     
  15. stevel48

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    Bummer about your local shop. What you need to find if your local auto body supplier. I brought my 308 headlight bucked down to mine and they mixed me up a 1/2 pint of paint spectrophotometer matched for $25.
     

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