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  1. cs1

    cs1 Formula Junior

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    #1 cs1, Feb 14, 2013
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    Managed to catch some big areas of road just salted in the 360CS on the way home - it was unavoidable - I usually like the sound of stone chips on the underside of the car but the sound of salt flicking up really isn't as pleasurable!

    Obviously salt isn't good and needs washing off. Luckily the car hasn't been back above 5 degrees celsius (the temperature at which I understand the salt starts to cause issues and is otherwise not a problem when its cold until it gets warmer).

    The question is - which areas should I really concentrate on washing out with my pressure washer where salt could gather and cause most issue? Obviously my #1 concern is engine bay but I dont have a steam cleaner and can't imagine its a good idea to spray water every where inside the engine bay? (is this really a lesser of two evils choice?!)

    Edit - just found a steam cleaner I can pick up - is steam cleaning the engine bay as good as/better than pressure water washing it?

    Also, is there anything I can apply to the underside of the car that can protect (or at least better *resist*) the salt having an affect?
     
  2. ferrari355gtb

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    Drive it in the rain. Most of the underside is plastic.
     
  3. cs1

    cs1 Formula Junior

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    True, but salt can get into the suspension on the sides around the wheels which can then rust and can get into the engine bay where there are the small gaps either side of the engine. There are plenty of cars out there where people don't care and it just corrodes parts here and there but obviously most of us hate the idea of this and prefer to keep things spotless where we can of course.
     
  4. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    #4 greyboxer, Feb 14, 2013
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    Why not take this as the excuse to sell this one and buy another - you must have had this one longer than any of the others and there's another hundred out there you haven't owned yet !
     
  5. Chiaroman

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    The pressure washer might be a little extreme.

    Some of those things are really wicked.

    I just use the garden hose and spray and spray and spray some more.

    The shear volume of water should do the trick!!!

    Just my two cents...
     
  6. E60 M5

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    Copious amounts of water would be far better than pressure washers IMO. The under tray is solid and covers 85% of the bottom. I would focus around the wheel wells and I would only wipe down the engine area.
     
  7. SCEye

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    speaking of water in engine area, it is safe to spray the engine with a garden hose? I want to clean it a little but afraid that I may cause some damage. Should I turn the master electrical switch off first (the one in the front boot)?
     
  8. Noblesse Oblige

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    I strongly agree with this. Every time I use a pressure washer something bad happens. Just a garden hose aimed into all the right palces will do you fine. Use a lift to facilitate the process.
     
  9. djkling

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    HazMat ProTip: Dilution is the Solution for Pollution

    Get a standard garden hose with a standard nozzle and spray spray spray

    then spray some more

    then a little more

    You could always get super crazy and test the salinity of the water coming off the undercarriage but thats going a bit far. If you SOAK all the affected parts you dissolve the salt thats stuck then dilute it to harmless concentrations (no more than the road will have mid-summer)

    Dont go crazy with a pressure washer... you could end up with water on the wrong side of gaskets, and it could even push salt places you dont want it.
     
  10. Spitfire

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    Throw her away ... she's toast. Send me a PM -- I'll collect her and will thus save you paying for the wrecker to collect her.
     
  11. redduke

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    Many of us don't drive our pride and joy in salty conditions in the first place. Why were you compelled to do this?
     
  12. Afonsolaw

    Afonsolaw Formula 3

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    Maybe I am just naive but... Is it really that big of a deal?
     
  13. wax

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    Yeah - it's so bad, he's shipping it to me for 5 pity dollars.


    via rubber ducky
     
  14. g4titan

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    It's not... You'd have to really get into some bad stuff and really neglect the hell out of it, literally park it right after and NEVER touch the car for years. Any kind of detail, and normal car wash rhythm will get the salt and dirt off.
     
  15. Russell996

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    #15 Russell996, Feb 16, 2013
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    There is a very interesting thread on another F car site about salt corrosion on a nearly new 430 spider. Much of the suspension and engine alloy is easily damaged - paintwork is fine! The salt corrosion was mostly hidden under/behind panels where normal washing couldn't reach. The car was taken back by the dealer after it was discovered and removed from the Ferrari approved system at the factories request!
     
  16. F430GB

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't there be a different way of getting salt off of a car besides water? If you spray the salt off with water, the salt dissolves into the water and creates salt-water which, in my opinion, is even more of a problem because now the salt water has the ability to get into cracks and crevices that salt it self could not. Am I thinking this out incorrectly?

    -Gil
     
  17. djkling

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    Shake it out?
    All you can do is wash it with SO much water you run it clear. Not much else you can do.
    I dont drive mine until the first big rain of the year that washes the roads.

    Salt corroded the rock-rails on my jeep in 3 years... bad stuff.
     
  18. Noblesse Oblige

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    This is why you want to spray for a long period of time -- to ensure that all the salty water is drained away.
     

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