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HYPER-CAR choices.

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by FXEFFECTS, Feb 27, 2013.

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  1. DLC

    DLC Karting

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    P1 - Race car attributes, 0-300 in <17s, Massive downforce in a street car. The best of all worlds for my use.
    918 - Porsche durability = bulletproof
     
  2. Tenney

    Tenney F1 Rookie
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    Huayra. Wouldn't be surprised in the least little if the Mullin Museum makes Horacio an honorary Frenchman fifty years yonder. Might take the Venom GT next - for extra entertainment at the helm.
     
  3. Tenney

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  4. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    It comes from a power crazy time when ludicruous power was allowed in racing. That said, today's race cars are just as quick with half that power. If the gorning body were to let the manufacturers/designers loose today, the results would be much more impressive than the 917.
     
  5. willcrook

    willcrook F1 Rookie
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    Excluding the F70 as I've not seen it yet:

    P1. The perfect road racer imo.

    I love the Zonda but hate the styling of HP's new car and the Porsche just seems plain inferior.

    The idea combination would be a P1 and a Veyron SS for everything else (if I had to drive hypercars constantly and could live with the insane amounts of attention they bring!)
     
  6. ARTNNYC

    ARTNNYC F1 Rookie
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    Concerning the 918 has anyone here gone to one of the previews and has Porsche finalized the horsepower of the gasoline engine as of yet? I think they may have understated the power of the engine alone stating I believe 570. They did that with the Carrera GT stating it had 550 horsepower and then upon final release upped it to 612
     
  7. GTE

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    How is a FF uninspired?? You can say a lot about the FF but uninspired?
     
  8. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    When I look at it I'm not inspired to buy one.
     
  9. GTE

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    Taking the frontengined V12 2+2 configuration (which is in the heart of the DNA of Ferrari) and interpret in the way that has lead to the FF, is very much inspired. One can not like the result but it is certainly not inspired. I'd call the Aston Martin Rapide uninspired since it is such a clear continuation of a look that was first introduced about 20 years ago, allthough many seem to like the result. But then again, there are actually people who prefer a Bentley Continental GT (which has aged awfully) over a FF. Crazy world.
     
  10. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

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    Continental GT aged awfully? Mk1 still looks business in the flesh...
     
  11. 85886

    85886 Karting

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  12. pamparius

    pamparius Formula Junior

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    not at all.
     
  13. ARTNNYC

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    I have owned MANY Porsches starting in 1987 with a slant nosed turbo. They are VERY reliable in comparison to other sports and likely ANY car. The 996 was problematic at first but the GT2's and GT3's are already becoming classics and the standard models have proven quite durable
     
  14. GTE

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    Depends on what business you are in. The car itself looks bloated and heavy. But that is a different discussion alltogether.
     
  15. ross

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    i have not been in or driven a huayra yet, but have seen it in person. i have done all this in a zonda. if you have not experienced pagani's work, you have no idea what these comparison's are like. pagani products are individual jewels of the highest order. and they are incredibly competent. the lower bhp vs the others will not keep it from winning the race.

    the porsche is absolutely beautiful in person, and provided the motors work, it would be my second choice.

    the f150 is going to be special. they may have even learned some lessons from jim such that the enzo replacement might be engineered and built better - but the performance will be there.

    the last one on the list for me is the macca. no interest.
     
  16. REALZEUS

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    Which race would that be?
     
  17. Gran Drewismo

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    I can second this. The Pagani folks told us that the car is made like the way a tailor makes a dress. It fits the buyer and is tailored to his/her needs and wants. The fit, finish and the attention to detail really show.



    So now my question: Why doesn't Koenigsegg get any love here?
     
  18. Gran Drewismo

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    +1

    Good choice of color on the 760LH......
     
  19. ross

    ross Three Time F1 World Champ
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    the koenigsegg is a potent car no doubt. but it will not rate as highly as these choices simply based on the technology, or lack thereof. but thats just my opinion, without any real knowledge of it.
     
  20. jcosta79

    jcosta79 Formula 3

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    Koenigsegg has a lot of technology, but it's stuff most of us have probably never heard of. Their triplex suspension is interesting and the engine's ability to automatically adjust (no switching or anything else needed) to any type of fuel it encounters (E85, etc...) is REALLY amazing. They make everything in-house, all the way down to the engine and transmission computers. Nobody else that I know of makes their own ECU's in-house. That's crazy.
     
  21. REALZEUS

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    As far as I know all manufacturers do the programming of the ECUs in-house. The hardware is really unimportant. It might be Bosch, Marelli or whatever.
     
  22. Drive550PFB

    Drive550PFB Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I am not trying to rain on anybody's parade. I appreciate technology.

    But the FF to me is . . . how do I say this and be polite . . . the FF is not my cup of tea.

    True Story. A guy I know in Atlanta just bought one. I was meeting him for lunch. He pulls up in an FF. Now, generally, with any car--Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo, American Muscle, Classic, etc, I would fawn over it and ask to drive it.. At worst, I'd ask to take a ride in it.

    With the FF, I provided the requisite compliments, but didn't ask to ride or drive. It just didn't do it for me. Maybe the fact that we were in Buckhead and there was no place to open it up was a reason not to drive it. But, my pulse didn't even move.

    Sorry.
     
  23. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    That Emperor is buck naked and the lease they're flogging at $9.30 a mile not including gas, insurance, 10% cap reduction fee, and tags etc. is a joke (IMO)
     
  24. Drive550PFB

    Drive550PFB Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Agree.

    Well, in this economy, there are a lot of guys driving cars on leases, with bald tires, squeaky brakes and check engine lights on. I know guys who can't get out of the lease because they can't afford to get into a new lease (and they can't qualify to buy a car with debt).

    If you gotta lease a Ferrari, you can't afford it. I don't buy that story about deducting the lease for business purposes. I think there are some pretenders out there.
     
  25. Goplay

    Goplay Formula Junior

    Mar 16, 2012
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    The only good reason for a lease is if you flip cars and therefore don't have to pay the sales tax on the whole car, only on the monthly lease rate.

    That said, I tend to flip cars and pay cash. Not the first time I don't follow my own advice!
     

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