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FedEx 727 200 Short Field Landing with audio- Its last flight

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  1. donv

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    I'm just curious-- do those actually send attitude information and all the other stuff recorded by the FDR, on a real-time basis?

    I knew the Airbus sends "maintenance information" such as EICAS messages, but all that other stuff?

    I've never flown any airplanes that had anything more advanced than an FDR, so I'm interested.

     
  2. Gatorrari

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    I think it was Bob Hoover who once said that if you do the roll correctly, the airplane doesn't even know it's being rolled. Several guys who were inspired by Hoover did it wrong and tore the wings off their airplanes.
     
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    That would explain the bounce at touch down.;)
     
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    #29 Spasso, Mar 4, 2013
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    Here is a video of Hoover pouring a glass of tea, back-handed from a pitcher, while performing a roll in the Shrike. 1G all the way around.
    Generals were sitting in the back drinking coffee.

    NOTE: The tea in the glass remains level at all times, no sloshing. Notice the white ball hanging from the glass support, it too remains vertical and stationary.
    A comment below the video: "This man has ****ing gargantuan ***** of reinforced tungsten carbide. All of you just give up now, you will never be as awesome as he is.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMWxuKcD6vE[/ame]
     
  5. toggie

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    Was that a stall horn that sounded in the background of the radio call at 2:14 in the 727 video?
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  6. Spasso

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    Sounded like it to me. He powered up for go-around right then.
     
  7. Bob Parks

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    When Tex Johnson rolled the -80, Brian M., the flight engineer who took the photo while they were inverted, said that if your eyes were closed you would never have known it. It's all in the amount of pull during the rolling turn and a gentle feed of enough rudder. Hoover has the uncanny feel of knowing exactly what the airplane needs during a maneuver . I saw him roll an F-86 on take off years ago and it was quite " puckering".
     
  8. Thomas Magnum

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    You guys familiar with FedEx 705? Pretty amazing what they did with a DC-10.

    Fedex 705
     
  9. donv

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    The trick is to get the initial pitch up correctly. If you get the nose at the right point above the horizon when you start to roll, the nose will simply fall through the horizon at one g as you go around.

    The problem is when you start the maneuver with the nose too low. Then, the nose ends up too low toward the end of the roll, the speed builds up, panic takes place, and the pilot pulls hard and damages the aircraft.

    I always taught unusual attitudes in jets this way-- nose high, roll to 90 degrees and let the nose fall through the horizon, and recover. All at one g. Doing an actual roll is simply a matter of continuing to roll past 90 and all the way around.

     
  10. donv

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    That is an incredible story. Avweb had a fantastic interview with the FO a few years back-- really something. I would classify all three of them as some of my personal heroes.

     
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    #36 Spasso, Mar 4, 2013
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    NOW, BACK ON SUBJECT

    Another low pass , great sound, [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXXA-pRIQV8]B727 Low fast pass - YouTube[/ame]

    A Varig doing TWO low passes, [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl7QgjdRONo]727 Varig Log - Low Pass - YouTube[/ame]

    With winglets, [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcAqu6P2tG0&playnext=1&list=PL977E7E8C411CB322&feature=results_video]2006 Atlantic City Airshow - FAA Boeing 727 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  12. Bob Parks

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    I usually pulled up into something like a 45Deg. climb and started it from there. Gravity does all the work. A friend of mine decided to try a roll on take off with a Citabria. He had never done one but it was an impromptu act. He split-S'ed out of it and killed himself.
     
  13. Spasso

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    I have to throw in this Connie Super G just for fun.
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsY4G-NS0Hc&feature=player_embedded]Insane low level fly by, super G constellation!! - YouTube[/ame]
    Full rich on takeoff, [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dExlu488bM4&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
     

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