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How bent is too bent: 348

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by kj2001m5, Mar 11, 2013.

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  1. kj2001m5

    kj2001m5 Karting

    Aug 7, 2009
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    Same thought process here. I'm not looking to win any show, I'm just looking for a good driver that I can have fun with both during the repair and after.
     
  2. staatsof

    staatsof Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    What do you intend to do with the car?

     
  3. copterjon

    copterjon Formula 3
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    Are we talking about a bent yellow car in the desert southwest perhaps?
     
  4. kj2001m5

    kj2001m5 Karting

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    I know of a bent rossa in sunny SoCal

    Is there another one that might be of interest? Always looking for a deal
     
  5. robertgarven

    robertgarven F1 Veteran
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    Hey,

    I say if you have the skills and want to save a car destined for the scrap heap I say more power to you.! So many guys modify their cars more than I think is right, me being a purist, especially guys stripping GT4's for race cars which there are many. I would rather see someone take a car no one wants anymore and fix it up however they want. Keep us posted.

    Rob
     
  6. plugzit

    plugzit F1 Veteran
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    Wow. What a crock.
     
  7. JCR

    JCR F1 World Champ
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    Really? How about a point by point rebuttal of what he wrote?
     
  8. plugzit

    plugzit F1 Veteran
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    No thanks. It's already been done over and over. Take the time to go to the 348 section and do your own research.
    The poster of the quote did nothing more than parrot all the old and tired knocks against the car which have been proven by time to be bs.
     
  9. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
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    I was going to say it's the same BS with the 360. Oh the timing belts, oh this and that won't be updated.. etc. etc.

    The problem is that over 20 years anything mission critical HAS been updated or fixed. Unless it's been a one owner car sitting in a garage with 2000 miles on it... in which case it belongs in a museum and not on a road.

    I still wonder putting more than $5-10k in a 348 rebuilding it, since there are sub $40k examples and some for even under $30k with higher miles that haven't been in an accident. Which means you'll never get that money back or have trouble selling the car and might not even get the parts costs back...
     
  10. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    It has been tried and reproven over and over and over

    You cannot save yourself into a cheap Ferrari even if you do everything yourself and count your time as having zero value.

    There are a great many unfinished Ferrari project cars in history to show for it.


    The parts sellers love these guys.


    And the harder you tell them it can't be done, the less they listen.
     
  11. Ehamilton

    Ehamilton F1 Rookie
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    Three questions everyone needs to ask themselves (and answer honestly) before they embark on a rescue mission:
    1) Do I have the skills, tools, and time to do what I'm not going to pay for and the dollars to do what I am going to pay for?
    2) Do I mind being upside-down when I'm done?
    3) Will I count the time I spend as entertainment?

    I answered these three questions "yes", "no", and "yes" when I took on my 308 rescue mission, and it turned out pretty much the way I expected... Far underwater dollars-wise, wouldn't trade the hours I've spent on the car for anything, and enjoy the car much more than I would if I didn't have skin in it.

    If I had gone into the exercise thinking I'd get a Ferrari cheap, I'd be one seriously unhappy person now....
     
  12. John Se

    John Se Karting

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    You could probably boost your kitty by parting it, then buy the high mileage one to modify and go canyon carving.
     
  13. kj2001m5

    kj2001m5 Karting

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    Everyone is so insistant that the 348 is a dog. I like the 348, to me that's all that matters. Fact is, yes I have the tools and skills, and no I really don't care about how many high mileage ones are out there... I wanted to know the true technical sense. How bent is too much to be truely fixable. Money is not part of the equation. Its about fun, and patting yourself on the back about a job well done when everyone else says it can't be.

    Secondly, I have decided to pass due to additional damages found on my third inspection of the car.
     
  14. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

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    Obviously you know what the pitfalls are. If the car is really, really cheap, go ahead and buy it. If it can't be fixed, part it out. You can use the profits to help purchase a decent example.

    Good luck,
    Dave
     
  15. kj2001m5

    kj2001m5 Karting

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    I've passed entirely on that wrecked 348. I have a strong lead on a decent 355 that I'm in process of purchasing
     
  16. FasterIsBetter

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    KJ, I didn't see anything about where you are located. But I thought I'd relate this story to you. A close friend of mine has an '83 308 QV. He stuffed it into a wall at Watkins Glen a few years back, rear corner first. The right rear corner was mashed up pretty good. We did a bunch of preliminary work, like removing the engine, ourselves, and then he took the car to Classic Coach in Elizabeth, NJ. CC is a major Ferrari shop and has all of the jigs for all of the major models. They put the car up on their rack and realigned the chassis and frame back to factory specs.

    We then took the car to a local body shop that does a lot of restoration work on older cars. My friend picked up a rear fender and back piece for the trunk, and the shop cut out the old bent metal, welded in the new fender and back piece, blended everything and repainted the whole car. It ended up looking better than new. Once the body was finished, we got the car back, reinstalled the engine and did a bunch of other work, and the car is now absolutely beautiful.

    If you are anywhere in the Northeast, Classic Coach can straighten almost anything back to factory specs. If you are elsewhere, chances are you can find a place that can do it for you.
     
  17. LightGuy

    LightGuy Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Buy the 348 and part it if its the steal you think it is.
    I've done that with a Porsche 911 and made a killing.

    Plus you can tell your pals; "think I'll work on the Ferrari today" ;)
     
  18. Jeff Pintler

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    A recent forza magazine had a 250 SWB that an owner restored and now had a great car. Sometimes half the enjoyment is doing the resoration. I am working on a 82 Porsche Targa that professionals have just about destroyed. At the risk of offending 308/328 owners: The 308 is an ugly POS car that is cramped, underpowered, with too much body joll! After driving one, I can't understand why they are not all crushed! Hopefully, this is burried in this thread so I won't get hate PM's. Anyway, almost every person that has driven my three cars likes the 348 the most. It's a 89 with the 2.5 Motronic, about the only thing that I added is 1" spacers on the rear hubs and I have put 35k miles on it. Remember: every poster is an expert on this site, even the people that don't know what they are talking about.

    Jeff Pintler
    89 348tb, 86tr, 99 360 3-pedal
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    Will I get banned for sayin this?
     
  19. greg 19425

    greg 19425 Formula 3

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    Where do you live! :)
     
  20. RacerX_GTO

    RacerX_GTO F1 World Champ
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    You've stepped in it now :D

    Just woke up one day and decided to dump on the 308/328. Did that feel good? I'm not all that fond of the 410 SuperAmerica, so I just leave it at that.

    :D :D
     
  21. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Last night i jacked up my 348 and changed the small passenger side radiator (thanks Riccambi!) in a small storage garage in Vegas.

    This car is so easy to work on.
     
  22. dkilka

    dkilka Formula Junior

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    Amen!

    Why does the OP ask the question if he is not going to listen anyway? Time we move on I think.....
    Good luck with the resto, your gonna need it!
     
  23. gr8evo

    gr8evo Karting

    Mar 22, 2012
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    If you need to ask this on a forum then I would say run as fast as you can..
     

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