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  1. rmani

    rmani F1 Veteran Owner Silver Subscribed

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    I've always found this odd how senna is idolized and schumacher vilified for doing the similar things.
     
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  2. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    You're still surprised by logical inconsistencies.
    I envy you.
    ;)
     
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  3. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I think this little "incident" will indeed stay with him for a very long time and make his highlight reel. Sometimes F1 can forget much. Other times it never forgets. He's shown his true colors as a cheat, pure & simple IMO.

    Ayrton & Michael were in very different situations; the title on the line. Tends to change perspectives some.

    FWIW, the latest from their toothless leader;

    :confused: ;)

    "We're not going to use team orders, but we'll give them information (presumably to speed up or slow down etc) and *expect* them to be obeyed."

    But that's not team orders!

    Cheers,
    Ian
    pitpass - Red Bull to end team orders
     
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  4. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    +1
     
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  5. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    Seb seems blithely unconcerned with his legacy. This sort of thing happens when too much success comes too quickly. Applies to the team not just Seb.
     
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  6. Ferraripilot

    Ferraripilot F1 World Champ Owner Project Master

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    and more of Seb getting raked over the coals, with excellent commentary as to why his move was different than say how a Senna, Schu, or Alonso.

    starting around 16:00 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-K-VrXEmw]Episode 5 - live from the offices of F1Racing magazine with Craig Scarborough - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  7. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1

    Although, I'd always thought the team had handled it's success pretty well. Sure, they're a "Johnny come lately" to the party but I like their somewhat laid-back attitude and sense of fun about the whole mess; Some of their press releases and the little magazine they occasionally publish are damn funny.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
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  8. freshmeat

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    He chose to paint himself stupid instead of a liar...at this point the more he says the more he is coming off looking like a stupid liar.

    Bravo!

    I do like that he is unapologetic about winning, I think that's at least a glimmer of salvation.
     
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    +1 My sentiments exactly. It's just laughable and shows character is in question. It's not like he put someone in a wall or a compromising position, that stuff we can understand. This, what he's doing, just shows us he thinks we're all idiots and he doesn't care about his team.
     
    Ferraripilot, Apr 11, 2013
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  10. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    I've never held their drinks Co. origins against them but their lack of experience shows.
    As far as a sense of fun, well they're no Hesketh.
    :)
     
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  12. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    Don't give Bernie any ideas.
     
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  14. Fast_ian

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    +1 and we're getting to the heart of the matter here; I don't think there's any question that their garage is irrevocably broken now. Working against each other rather than together will (hopefully!) set them back more than a little.....


    +1000! ;) "Those were the days!"

    I suspect Bernie would **** if the his Lordship's ilk were to try and return......

    Another good quote from Pitpass;

    :)

    Cheers,
    Ian
    pitpass - Roy the Boy's betting guide to China
     
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    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    That puckish German sense of humor.
    Gotta love it.
     
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    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Otto - find ich gut.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lZ7Rlf152g]Otto Waalkes Hänsel und Gretel (neue Version) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  17. TifosiUSA

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    "Heavy is the head that wears the crown."
     
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    De mortibus nihil nisi bene.

    Might be as simple as that.
     
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    Good point
     
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    I come to bury Caesar not to praise him.
     
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  22. tifosi12

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    Cesar conquered Gaule. Didn't he have at least a cook?

    Berthold Brecht
     
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    crinoid F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

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    I do not look for a demolition derby. I do desire to watch fierce competition. This also could help out our old Scuderia.
     
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  24. freshmeat

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    I can't speak for everyone, but personally, when I mention "I want to see Webber punt Vettel into the wall!" I really mean I want them to race each other ruthlessly to the edge and beyond. If that results in a spectacular crash than great entertainment so long as both drivers walk away.

    No, decent human being wants to see another lose life and limb. Lighten up ppl, lighten up.
     
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    It's ridiculous that Watson asked Vettel to apologize to the FANS.

    Give me a freakin' break -- the guy wanted to win over team orders. Is that a crime to the FANS?

    "Gosh fans of F1. I'm so sorry for making that incredible pass on my teammate because I was told not to. Please forgive me!"

    Apologize to the team and his teammate-- ok. Apologize to the fans? Ridiculous.
     
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