R & L CEL......once reset and cleared comes back within a minute or so..... Codes P1112 P0112 P0111 This obviously has something to do with the temp sensors on top of the engine...that's good news. So I switched the sensors, and got P1111 P0112 P0111 Is this clear indication that this sensor is bad? Are they available? I did find a cheapie, from some Asian car, that was also supposed to also fit a 98 Diablo......but it seems to do the same thing as the OEM sensor that is potentually bad. Thanks for the comments guys......
Assuming the car is OBD II: OBD II Fault Code OBD II P0112 Fault Code Definition The Intake Air Temperature Sensor converts the air temperature into a voltage that is high when the Intake Air is cold and low as the engine warms up. P0112 indicates a low voltage input from the Intake Air Temperature to the Powertrain Control Module. Symptoms Check Engine Light will illuminate In many cases, no abnormal symptoms may be noticed In some cases, the engine may be hard starting and/or get poor fuel economy Common Problems That Trigger the P0112 Code Defective Intake Air Temperature Sensor Dirty air filter Defective Mass Air Flow Sensor Faulty or corroded Intake Air Temperature wiring or connections OBD II Fault Code OBD II P0111 Fault Code Definition The Intake Air Temperature Sensor converts the air temperature into a voltage that is high when the Intake Air is cold and low as the engine warms up. Code P0111 is triggered when there is problem in the signal range from the Intake Air Temperature Sensor to the Powertrain Control Module. Symptoms Check Engine Light will illuminate In many cases, no abnormal symptoms may be noticed In some cases, the engine may be hard starting and/or get poor fuel economy Common Problems That Trigger the P0111 Code Defective Intake Air Temperature Sensor Dirty air filter Defective Mass Air Flow Sensor Faulty or corroded Intake Air Temperature wiring or connections I'm not a Lambo tech though...I'd get a second opinion from a certified tech unless some else on here know the Diablo engine systems.
In most cases the air temp sensor is incorporated into the mass air flow senser housing, generally the sensor is low voltage with a normal range of 1 to 4 volt reading. Check the MAF plug terminals, it only takes a little corrosion or a loose terminal to cause the voltage to go out of range. If you have access to a wiring diagram you can jump the termials at the connector and check the response with the scan tool live data feed. This would confirm that the wiring and ECM functions for that circuit are ok. If the circuit test is good and the connection is good, then the MAF is most likely the culprit. Regards, Rick
Hey Guys......that's great info. But I'm focusing on that P1111 that becomes a P1112 when I switch the air sensors. P1111 refers to one bank and P1112 refers to the other side. To me this means somethings up with the air sensor? Where do you guys even buy a part like this? I'm not so much deep into the Lambo world......just love this car so I bought it!
Lambo Stuff and AMH exoticparts are a couple of vendors. There's more. If you going to DIY, which is good, your going to have to narrow it down, then buy the part. There's a certain amount of guess work involved.
I had the same issue on my 97.5, as the shop was doing the engine out, replaced both intake temp sensors. Those sensors are very hard to obtain. Also if I remember correctly left sensor is for the right bank, right is for the left.
How do you mean the right is for the left, and visa versa? I looked on those websites and didn't see this sensor, maybe they have them but just don't show them on the website.....I'll call. But I did find a $20 sensor that is supposed to fit, and it does mechanically and with the plug. I really need to understand better how to test one of these. Is it just resistance vs. temperature?
IAT Sensor from Lamborghini nearly $300.00 EACH. Ford Cosworth Air Temp Sensor ACT - WTS186 / ATS04 | eBay eXACT SAME PART $30.00
It's been almost a year mine were replaced, if you're getting a R CEL it's your left sensor triggering it, at least that's what I was told.
I can check the grounds, but I'm focusing in on the fact that when I switch the sensors one of the codes switches sides. It must be a sensor. But I sure wish I knew how to test one? ferraribooks.....good info...I love that.....maybe I should just buy a couple. But I did find a non-OEM that fits, even mentioned fitting Diablos, but it still doesn't make the codes change from the sensor I believe is bad....
P0111 = Air Temperature sensor fault P0112 = Air Temperature sensor low signal (less than -20 C) P1111 = Air Temperature sensor fault (cyl bank 1/6) P1112 = Air Temperature sensor fault (cyl bank 7/12) Standing at rear of car looking forward, bank 1/6 is the left bank. Seems to me you have more than enough info to know what the issue is. The codes are your test. Buy the right part - not one that just "fits". -mick
Mick....I agree. I assume the P0111 & P0112 get thrown when either the P1111 or P1112 gets thrown. And when I switch sensors P1111 changes to P1112, or visa versa. Seems obvious enough. I found a sensor listed as fitting a 98 Diablo, but we know that sensor is the same one as on my 99 SV. So I bought it. Problem is it seems to be doing the same as before. I just don't want to buy yet another sensor and have it do the same thing......yeah? Mick...what do you think about ferraribooks sensor idea up above? Appreciate your input guys.... Ok, hold that thought guys....just checked my notes. My notes say the most recent trial threw a P1111 and the new sensor is on the right....so maybe it is good, and it's the other side.....the OEM sensor......geeezzzzz. Is there a voltage or resistance test?
Not sure if this will work, but did you unplug the battery after you put in the new sensors? I'm sure you cleared the codes with the OBD detector, but there may be a re-learing process once you start up the car after you connect the battery back on.
That is correct - P0111 and P0112 are generic codes and are reported by both LIEs. The more interesting codes are P1111 or P1112. There is no difference between and 98 and 99 in this area. However, I will bet $1 that a non lambo business advertising a sensor like this as being compatible with a Diablo is bogus. Seems pretty clear to me and worth a shot at $30 to at least compare the parts. You should know that ferraribooks is lambo knowledgeable. Obviously an issue that you need to clear up. -mick
No OBDII reader will clear the codes nor do any reset to the LIEs - simply ain't going to happen. -mick
Mick....I am using a OBD II reader to clear the CEL codes every time I try a new sensor configuration. I realize it doesn't clear the "deep memory"....but it works to do these experiments right?
I have made a jumper for clearing codes at the connection. Info here: Lamborghini Engine Fault Code Removal
Waiting for Mick to answer my question.....but, my understanding is these two procedures will clear the deep memory codes in the LIE, but will also clear the readiness statuses, and this whole thing is about passing a smog test.......
Each bank is controlled by one LIE thus you have two LIEs that talk to each other via a CAN bus. The LIEs generate and record the OBDII fault codes along with a bunch of other info. Also attached to the CAN bus is the GFA which is the module that supports the OBDII connector, protocol and reporting of the LIE OBDII fault codes. The reader can issue the reset command to the GFA but there is no mechanism for the GFA to "pass on" the reset the LIEs. And thats what you need. Further, if you are having trouble with the readiness indicators when you are running OBDII fault free, you maybe missing the LIE recall/reflash. Call a lambo dealer with your VIN to confirm. -mick
Ok, but when I erase the codes in the GFA that turns off the CEL and allows me to try a new sensor....right? Would there be any advantage to reset the LIEs just to try new sensors? This may also help me understand something else. The dealer I got the car from, Motorcars International, talked a lot about Lamborghinis having "phantom codes". As best he could explain it was that it was a diagnostic code that didn't stay in memory, maybe LIE memory? And sure enough when I did my first smog test the car had just started throwing this code. And it wasn't gonna pass. Then all of the sudden the smog guy says the Lamborghini just crashed his whole California networked smog test system. While he was rebooting his system we reset the CEL and during the first few seconds, before the code was generated again.....the vehicle passed. Wow. So what about these "phantom codes"?