Any Queen Mothers out there?

Interesting! I have been considering a 250 GTE, 330 America (hard to find), 330 GT 2 + 2, or a 365 GT 2 + 2 for a little while now. Tom Yang is very knowledgeable on the 250 GTE and 330 America cars as well. There is something special about the Enzo era cars. Plus, I love the four seaters (I have 5 kids). There are a couple of 330 GT 2 + 2's and 365 2 + 2's available in the market place right now. The 365 GT 2+2 is growing on me, but at first sight, it appears to be too long in the rear/trunk area, as if it had been extended or stretched. Although, I don't find the 4-headlight 330, ugly, or unattractive, I would always buy the later cars for a little more money. BTW, the 330 GTC is a great car....congrats.

 

I know I am prejudiced as an owner, but the 365 GT 2+2 fits all the bills. It has the practical usability of a real 2+2, enough trunk space for long trips, comfort, power, performance that is quite satisfying, AND the classic look of Ferraris from the mid-1950s through the end of the 1960s. Karl Ludvigsen in Sports Car Graphic in a contemporary 1968 road test called it "The Magnificent GT", a label that I believe is still valid. You get PS, PB, PW, 4 discs, IRS, A/C, flow through ventilation, reclining seats, dual heaters, wood and leather interior, and often a quite-decent Blaupunkt or similar radio. Most have the beautiful Borranis.

Pininfarina was a genius with body design and airflow. The 365 GT 2+2 is completely stable at 130 mph with no wings or spoilers. You can open one or both side windows at 90 mph without buffeting. Mine is one of three known to have a sunroof and it is usable up to at least 80 mph in comfort. It has the looks of the 500 Superfast, stretched to include the 2+2 seating.

You get an almost-modern car with the classic Ferrari design, usable in almost all driving situations, at lower cost than any other V-12 Ferrari, and it does not need any of the unobtainable computer wizardry or equipment to keep it running properly.

If you are serious about ownership, PM me for some discussions. I have enjoyed 13,000 miles in mine and would give you the straight story.

Jim Walker
365 GT 2+2 #12451, Giallo Fly with black leather

 

Jim pretty much summed it up. I've owned mine for almost 19 years now, and I still love it.

I've used mine as a daily driver in the past, and done long trips. I did almost 700 miles in it one day! It's a great car. In it's day, it was the finest GT car in the world, no excuses.

 

Obviously, your car has been significantly modified, but I would love to see more pics. Also, who did the modification? Are there others like it? It really is a beautiful car as a cabrio!

 

Well not because I am defending anything here and I know it's just your opinion, but that 'rides like a truck' comment is absurd. That is the kind of trope that gets out there in this linked world and so I feel the need to say if your interested in any Ferrari do your best to drive one and not listen to internet blather about how they drive. Each car within a model range can drive totally different from one another depending on how it's maintained. I think the queen mother is a boat, a comfortable boat nonetheless, and the 330GT is more like a well executed Italian Mustang but that opinion is worth the paper it's printed on.

 

This one showed up on ebay today..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-365-2-2-No-Reserve-/300651654710?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item46003c2e36#ht_538wt_1121

 

Yep,I'm sick of folk bagging other type of the marque as well.The fact is the 365 is a continuation of the 330 and previous cars,it will naturally have acquired the more modern technology,ie power steer(which can change the feeling,handling and therefore general nature)of any car,IRS and all the other 'new' technology of the time.
I also have another 'unloved'Ferrari;the 365GT4 2+2,I love driving it as much as the 330(S1..the unloved and usually cut up one..for replicas).
In Aussie there is a bloke who is looking for an Enzo period car and he has put his hand up for NOT liking the 'long' look of the 365GT2+2.He is actively looking for a 330 or 330 GTC.

Hope to see some more confronting opinions,as there usually are!!

 

looks like a nice one at Fantasy Junction right now. Anyone know this car?

 

wow, that is a very early queen mother; s/n 11155, the 17th of the 801 made.

 

Bravo! What a sweetheart!

It's modeled after one of the last "coachbuilt" Ferraris, the 365 California, a continuation of the 500 Superfast and sold new only to VIP's and "close friends of the factory." Quite valuable now, they're a stunner in person. Todd Morici had a black one for a long time that I thought was just gorgeous.

I applaud the OP for "trading back" from the CS, he won't regret it.

 

Stumbled on this one
Vin Number: 11705

1969 Ferrari 365 2+2 Pininfarina | Black Horse Automotive Services - Connecticut Antique Car Restoration

 

I have given some thought to selling my Queen, a numbers matching example.

It had a lot of "issues" when I bought it, but most have been taken care of in the last 8 years. I've had 13,000+ miles of enjoyment, but might consider trying a different classic. There are a lot of interesting cars to own and I have room for only one in the garage.

PM me if you are interested.

Jim Walker
365 GT 2+2 #12451

 

Folks at Black Horse Garage in Bridgeport, CT, are a wonderful and highly capable bunch of real enthusiasts and talented craftsmen. It's worth a trip just to see their shop and what they're capable of. I believe they maintained/prepared a 330GTC that won a big award recently.

 

I, like Simon, own a S1 330 2+2 and love it to bits (er, in bits at the moment...) and wouldn't swap it for the 365 as I find the 365 a bit ponderous in comparison and I'm just not interested in all the "extras"; however...

As you already have the 330 GTC, is there really enough driving difference between it and the 330 to justify having both? Under the circumstances, the 365 might offer you a bit more variety.

 

looks very nice, but it irks me to see that much work being done, and then not even getting the fuel lines right - they're available!

 

I might be looking for one also. Do any of you have the total length. I know it is long curious if it will fit in my garage before i start my search in earnest.

 

Are they really at $165k or is Black Horse just a bit on the high side?

 

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