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#06450 Chaires and Flares

Discussion in '206/246' started by omgjon, Apr 7, 2013.

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  1. JCR

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    Jon, don't forget to tell the shop to save the cut out metal. Just in case the next owner wants to reinstall for originality's sake.


    ;)
     
  2. dgt

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    Maybe you didn't look closely at the photos of the cracked paint, the surface rust on the chassis and suspension components, the "tin worms" and 60k+ mileage. It's in much better shape than most Dinos approaching 40 y.o. but I don't see this as a preservation candidate, those time-warp cars sailed through here last year. Document, restore, drive.
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  3. Michael246

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    +1
     
  4. swift53

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    Comparing the 375MM to a Dino is an unfair and incorrect comparison.

    Regards, Alberto
     
  5. Michael246

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    I think I like the yellow most on the GTS.
     
  6. omgjon

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    #81 omgjon, May 8, 2013
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    This is probably the most enjoyable part of the restoration for me, going through all the parts now that they've been cleaned, replated etc. and rebuilding each assembly. Today it was rear calipers and the shift mechanism. The 40 year old grease in the shifter had to be chipped out it was so hard. There is no particular order in this part, it's just what I feel like when I get to work.
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  7. 4CamGT

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    Jon,

    You are amazing! The Dino community is richer because of you! A real pleasure to watch your threads!

    Freeman
     
  8. omgjon

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    Thank you Freeman, as you can tell I enjoy every minute of it!
     
  9. surface master

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    I agree with Jon and Speedzone. As a restorer, the nicer the car is the better your restoration will be. And if it is "original" with less then 35/40 K on them ... all the better! I will say, it would be better to find a Dino with less than 500 miles (or Kilometers) if you're wanting to keep the original Dino unrestored and untouched. Good luck finding one with less than 1,000 miles but they are out there. THOSE are the cars you keep original! Then you can keep the patina. But it's a whole different thing then because you're getting into preservation at that point.

    Steve Kouracos
     
  10. PSk

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    Cars are supposed to be about driving enjoyment. This car is being restored and I'd say that 95+% of the car will still be the original parts (just replated and/or cleaned) when finished ... a replica is not being built.

    I fail to see how a car of this age can be considered original and well mechanically maintained. I guess it is possible but things wear out.

    So I assume survivor cars (or poorly restored cars) don't drive very well, and I often wonder about this when you read a historic or classic car magazines road test.

    Anyway this car needed a major mechanical restoration as the photos of the mechanical components clearly show anyway. To keep the stuffed paint would have been simply ignoring one area of the car for no gain ... ie. old paint is not interesting patina if its just old paint. If there is a dent in the front where the car nudged a competitor under heavy breaking into La Source then yeah that is very interesting history ... but this car is a road car.

    Are we soon going to be sniffing seats because somebody famous sat in a car ... :eek:
    Pete
     
  11. TonyL

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    If the customer wants it restored then who has the right to judge the rights and wrongs of it, after all its his money so let him spend it how he wants.

    The car will undoubtebly be the better for it and hopefully give it another 40 years, however i will say that there is a dilemma with doing this, currently my car is being repainted back to its original colour and the bodywork guys ar doing a beautiful job, trouble is i dont quite seem the guys at ferrari 40 years ago taking the same trouble and so are we restoring them just a little bit too perfect. I fall in the perfect category BTW

    Tony
     
  12. omgjon

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    #87 omgjon, May 9, 2013
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    Progress from today. I post the pictures for two reasons, first so the owner can follow the progress and feel connected to the project rather than dropping it off somewhere and getting it back a year later. It also documents exactly what was done. Secondly there are many out there who work on your cars or are contemplating it. I think it is a lot less intimidating when you can see the parts sort of on an exploded view and see some of the projects are really not that difficult. I think it encourages more DIY.
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  13. dignini

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    As usual
    Beautiful work and a great resource
     
  14. VEEP

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    Color is off course very personal. If the car is for keeps take the one you like.
    Imho with a car like this that had such a special and also for my taste beautiful color is has to stay that way ( or better: be that again).
    Nice car, and very nice restoration job( but that was to be expected)
     
  15. omgjon

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    I like that color and looks much better in person than the photos indicate. If it were me I would of gone with the original color due to the fact you don't see many that color and so somewhat unique. I just finished a 206 in that color and it was stunning. I'm not in charge of the color choice and at this point I don't know what they will pick. I sent them the Dino Compendium to look at colors. Thanks for your comments.
     
  16. champtc

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    Jon- u have been hugely helpful to me & have removed alot of the "mystery" in working on these cars. I think i like working on em almost as much as I do driving them! Thanks for the inspiration!!
     
  17. swift53

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    Lovely Jon!

    How do you remove the plastic ring around the fuel tank cap?

    Regards, Alberto
     
  18. omgjon

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    After 40 years the rubber gets a little hard. I use a heat gun to soften a bit and it prys right off. I believe replacements are available.
     
  19. HMB-Dino

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    Correct...Verell makes them (he has a backlog of orders for them right now). If your rubber ring is to be replaced, just cut it off...just be careful to count your fingers afterwards. Jon's idea of using a heat gun is probably safer for most!
     
  20. swift53

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    Thank you. :)
    Boiling water works very well also, as it heats evenly and will not scorch as a heat gun might.
    I was asking before I got myself in trouble.

    Regards, Alberto
     
  21. racerboy9

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    I use a hair dryer for a lot of heating jobs. Don't have to worry about scorching and still gets pretty warm. On the other hand, I wouldn't us a heat gun for a hair dryer!
     
  22. HMB-Dino

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    Do you apply the styling gel before or after using the hair dryer?
     
  23. omgjon

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  24. swift53

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    Jon, I hope you are re-lubing those pesky needle cups for the steering along with the silly star washers ;)

    regards, Alberto
     
  25. LARRYH

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    THis picture reminds me . I have a 72 246 GT and have the original steering wheel but I would like to get it rebuilt who do you use for steering wheel rebuilds.... Thanks in advance...
    LarryH
     

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