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Ferrari 458 replacement to have turbo V6?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Dadr, May 17, 2013.

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  1. Dadr

    Dadr Formula Junior

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  2. TheMayor

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    Then they should call it a Dino, and that would be fine with me.
     
  3. PhilNotHill

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    Turbo 6 Ferrari not my cup of tea (F40 is a V8)

    Want a turbo? Buy a Porsche or Mclaren.
     
  4. F2003-GA

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    Next step is going to be an evolution of the 458 and retain the V-8 no kers or Turbo

    However in 6-7 years when a new chassis is developed
    probably a carbon tub.Then you will see Turbo V-6 with kers -IMO
     
  5. HK boy

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    It will probably be Twin Turbo V6 someday, but not for a VERY long time.

    They will stay with the NA V8 for as long as they can, adding KERS, then eventually Twin Turbo V8.............a few generations from now might be Twin Turbo V6.
     
  6. F2003-GA

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    I would think it would work the other way round First the V-6
    Then graduating to V-8 Once they exhausted the V-6 power potential
     
  7. Ski Bum

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    Ferrari is not exempt from fleet mileage and pollution requirements, and those are getting increasingly tight in a number of countries (including the US). Ferrari does not have a bunch of economy cars in its product line to bring up its fleet mileage figures. Ferrari and its customers don't really want to go a smaller displacement/turbocharged route, but they may have no choice absent some significant breakthroughs.

    The DCT is a great transmission match for turbocharged cars because the turbo can remain spooled up when shifting.
     
  8. F2003-GA

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    Fuel economy mandates are for the consolidated company which includes Fiat & Chrysler
     
  9. 458dreamer

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    It is highly likely that the 458 replacement will have forced induction. Whether it will be with a V8 or V6 remains to be seen. Ferrari will need the turbos to keep up with the substantial jumps in hp that mp4 12c will continue to make. The mclaren is already too perfect of a car but so far doesn't have the ferrari name or prestige but that will eventually start to change with time and it will eat in to F car sales. My heart and emotions and resale say F car, but speed, perfection and practicality would point to mclaren.
     
  10. mihirdhanak

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    There's no way it will have 6 cylinders as a replacement, I don't see it happening at all. The V8 will always be there in Ferrari they won't stop same with the V12. If they decide to make a V6 it will be an entire new field but not as a replacement.
     
  11. rcraig

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    From the look of McLaren sales they might not be around for long. Sales are low. If they don't do something they won't be able to support massive company.
     
  12. skinguy23

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    The mclaren mp... is probably a better car (whatever that means) than the 458, but most of the enthusiasts on this forum would still take the ferrari first. I know from my experience, I feel more excited in a ferrari than in any other car. When I hear one before seeing it drive down the road the hairs on my neck stand up. Every day that I drive a ferrari I go to bed thinking: wow, I drove a ferrari today. I OWN a ferrari. And it makes me feel good in an irrational way that nothing else in this world does.

    Now, if the 458 replacement goes to forced induction, I'm sure the folks at ferrari will make it right. I do agree that the screaming v8 sound needs to be preserved, and I trust they can make it happen. If they end up with a six cylinder, does it matter? If the performance is there, the sound is great, the car is beautiful, exclusivity is unquestionable, why would the number of cylinders matter?
     
  13. GhostByte

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    Great point


    Life is 2 short not to drive a Ferrari :)
     
  14. tleggio77

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    I've owned many and nothing makes you feel as special as a Ferrari.
     
  15. skinguy23

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    The funny thing is that my wife could care less. The few times I get her in an f car she acts like its just another car. In fact, she thinks its dumb and a waste of money. My friends that aren't car guys don't get it either. I wonder if they get that kind of thrill from anything. It's a shame if they don't. I feel truly blessed that I can have my (car) dreams realized like this.
     
  16. MalibuGuy

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    I used to think that a carbon fiber tub/chassis was the way to go.

    But Ferrari has been able to improve the chassis using aluminum alloys and new welding bonding, and substituting a single complex forms in the place of multiple forms.

    Certainly, using more carbon fiber will help reduce weight.

    Perhaps more efficient fuel consumption can be realized with more advanced direct injection technology. Also electric drive can help with faster acceleration while using less fuel.

    Maybe this could allow a slightly smaller displacement while retaining the V8.

    Of course everything is possible. But what will future Ferrari buyers consider exotic and rare and exciting to drive?

    Tastes change. If the electric car proves itself on the road and the track, Ferrari will be able to offer more electric technology without having too much push back
     

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