do NOT speed in switzerland

Swiss Police uses unmarked Subaru Imprezas to chase cars and "motivate potential speeding candidates"! Seriously. They even use license plates from another Swiss canton so that you don't think it is a local police car.

Marcel Massini

 

There are many Fs in BKK, and they used to have a meet, not sure if they still do. The Asia section of this forum is the place to check. Not nearly as chaotic as India but statistically dangerous as speeds can be high outside the city. I never drive there after dark outside cities.

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We have the same here mostly. When we drive ''out of town'' (eg more than 50kms away) we normally bring a cheap KFC meal. If we get stopped speeding (it's hard not to; the road is one straight line so driving and paying attention to sudden lower speed zones is a bit difficult at times!), we haggle around a bit and normally end up giving them a KFC meal. lol. What's funny is that they normally want 200p (around 20 euro), but the KFC meal is 30p! The joys of no KFC around in the desert...

But then again, like you say, it also has it's bad things. If you where to stop just about any car on a friday/saturday you can guarantee they're drunk. Problem is, sometimes they set up road blocks, but the cops themselves start BBQing/drinking as soon as it gets dark, so by the team people roll out of clubs they're sleeping! But then they helpfully stop every single car from mid morning to mid afternoon. A few weeks ago someone was stopped with a cup of coffee and got given a fine for drinking and driving (even though it was in the cupholder). I don't think they understand the concept.

 

I read of someone in their Testarossa being fined £181,000 for speeding as the fine is linked to income.

I have always been careful in Switzerland except in the passes, but all these stories make me question next time.

 

Unfortunately, from my extensive personal and sad experiences:
- It depends on what kind of vehicle you are driving.
With the Mercedes C 200 I paid Euro 100,- for speeding
With the Ferrari 308 I payed Euro 350,- for speeding - same speed
With the Testarossa I payed Euro 1.000,- for speeding - same speed
With the Diablo over 10,000,- speeding thru a tunnel, got flashed 3 times in this tunnel.
Ticket arrived 4 weeks later at home.
- It depends on whether they pull you right/stop you or they send you the ticket home.
Stopp/Pull: You must pay cash/credit card immediately - or they impound your car
Ticket by post: Pay or ignore it. But if you ignore the ticket - you can never go/drive back in Switzerland. You are registered and you`ll go to jail.
- The price for tickets depends on your income.They estimate your income based on your car!?
Thats why we drive from Germany thru Austria to Italy.

Best advice: TAKE CARE

 

I guess they´ve learned from the Portuguese..or was it the other way around!?
here police uses all type of undercover cars, they used a lot of subarus impreza but now it´s more Bmw adis even lexus...they use anyhing...they hide cameras behing stoped trucks, and put them disguised in the gard rails!! I remenber once, some 10 years ago, i was on my car and my wife was a litle behind me, a BMW tucked behind her, and since she was passing someone, she speeded in order to move away from the BMw...well, it was the cops, they stoped her and fined her..they do it a lot, just a couple of months ago an audi a4 did the same to me, he was completly glued to my back....problem was something hapened on the road and everyone started to brake ,i had to change lanes in order to leave space for the audi to stop, otherwise he would have simply ran into the back of me....it was only than i looked at him and realized it was police car!! Idiots!!...anyway, when i get a ticket and i´m not stoped, i simply send it to a cousin in Brazil!!

 

FWIW Italian Police also uses unmarked Subaru Imprezas, especially between Torino and Genova, but also in other provinces.

Marcel Massini

 

Thanks for the reply

 

Since April, the french Police has began to use unmarked and absolutely standard Renault "Meganes" with high performance embarked radars on board, capable to measure speeds of vehicles going in the same direction, as of oncoming vehicles also.
For the time being, these are only roaming in a small number of departments, but eventually these will be patrolling everywhere at random.
Nothing - I mean nothing, not even an antenna - differ from standard cars (Some say that all their registrations are in the same series).
As the speeding tickets and offenses are now communicated to the Belgian, Dutch, etc police, and prosecuted accordingly by these countries since July 2012,, you better watch out...

Rgds

 

tailgating cops that try to force a violation are the worst offenders... a friend was fortunate enough to put one into a ditch on a curvy road one night by brake checking hard to get him off his bumper... his excuse would have been a deer jumped in front of his car... but nothing was heard from the police... the practice of tailgating went away for a time... hmmm... get a rental ( why ruin a good car ) and go trolling in an area infested with tailgating cops

 

i love this idea. cops are the worst offenders for driving in various areas. typical corrupt nonsense. thats what you get when you hire hypocrites designed to steal your money.

 

in 1989 I spent a night in jail in Vevey- on the autoroute between Lausanne and Montreux there are a series of tunnels. You go thru them at night its very disorienting... especially when you are blasted drunk ( as a passenger) and the driver is hammerd as well...

So there we are left Bonapartes pub in Lausanne at 1am - going back to Glion ... in my buddies R5 Turbo... cool car souped up big time, huge brembo's etc....

I think we were doing about 175kph... or so, flash thru the tunnels - dark, bright, dark bright- dark... funny colored light ... with a little blue sign that says Police...

My buddy - Merde! les flick's ( he's French ) ... lesson learned - don't let someone drive drunk - if you are a passenger and are drunk - just as liable too!... got out 36 hours later... not a great experience. shared a room with a drunk wood cutter with a huge beard, and who smelled bad... I mean BAD!!!!!

Me - got a warning and a notation in my Permit B work papers....

Buddy - expelled from school, and then banned from driving in CH for 1 year. car had to be sent back to France in 48 hours... or impounded / confiscated ....

Switzerland - to paraphrase Montey Python: "a lovely little country but a bugger when you are pissed!"

 

Merde! les flick's ( he's French )

You have a good memory, Tom; and a good command of french, too.
It should be written "un flic" or "les flics" (plural, if there is more than one).
It is a very near equivalent to the american "cop"; colloquial, but not offensive. Even they could - sometimes - accept it (but better not to try...their sense of humor is sometimes not proven).
We have a lot of other names; for instance, same range (= colloquial, but not offensive) is "un poulet" / "les poulets" (a chicken); "un bleu", etc, etc...

Rgds

 

les flic's ... sorry about the K... that was the name used by the Suisse Romande... I agree on the sense of humor... not good.

My Friend Tomas was from Versailles - ile de France, but lived mostly in Nice, his family owned a bunch of hotels - some Formule 1 chains... I think he eventually sold up, and now lives in Tahiti / and St Tropez. He did not finish school in CH, but did another school in Brussles.

 

That's the spot!

 

i actually dont blame the cops. they are doing their job. even the guys who picked me up were somewhat apologetic since they agreed that i had not been speeding before or after the flash location, and i had a spotless record.

i blame the dumbasses who vote for this stuff, and then pass it as law.

how can you make speeding a felony crime, and drug dealing isnt? like i keep saying, somewhere somebody has their head up their ass.

 

Nah, you're a felon. For sure... No question... Big time.

 

I don't suppose this was the late and great Gerald Roush was it?

Dale

 

wow, just wow ....this world has indeed lost it's mind!

"To many bureaucrats, not enough brains!"

 

That is what I do every time...... love that country!!!!!

 

I copied this from another thread. That is it for me and Swiss speeding, except in the passes?

Glorious day out with the 430 spider yesterday. Aosta Valley, 1/2 Grand Saint Bernard Pass (which was empty as roadworks at the top have closed through access), back down and through the GSB Tunnel....

Fustrated at slow-moving traffic at Sembrucker, and was rather forgetful with the right foot.

A little while later joined a line of stationary supercars and one BMW that had been pulled by Swiss Plod. Apparently they'd decided to spoil everyones sunday afternoon by placing a speed camera on the nice, smooth, fresh tarmac of a dual carriageway.. where some Swiss council in its wisdom had placed a 80kph speed limit on, even though the signs were no-where near it, and its a straight piece of road in the middle of the countryside!

So.. 172 kph in an 80. Ouch. It hurt. 4 hours, and 3000 CHF lighter (as a deposit against the fine). Oh, and immediately banned from driving in Switzerland until the judgement.

Plod kindly drove me back to my car, where I waited an hour, and (ofcourse got a lift) to the French border

So, a timely reminder.... don't speed in Switzerland :-o I guess that's what we can expect from a country that has no motorsport!

 

and just off the presses.....they are now contemplating reducing the speed limits on the highway between geneva and lausanne from 120/100 km/hr (it varies before and after exits/on-ramps), to now have it be 100/80 km/hr because they think it will improve the traffic flow and reduce accidents....

the irony is that they still call this autoroute "une voie de haute vitesse".....go figure.

never mind that germany has areas with no limits and they still have one of the lowest accident/death rates in the world.

 

Ahhhhhh, another 'expert'. No profile, no Ferrari, one post, but a huge opinion.

One of the reasons I used to go to Europe was because I could enjoy a great car on some spectacular roads, but alas the nannys are hard at work generating revenue for their overspending socialist agendas.

At least out here in the desert SW, there are still places that are lightly travelled and even more lightly patrolled.

 

Not when the gub-ment has a fiscal shortfall (not certain of Switzerland's fiscal health, but I digress).

I can guarantee the poster who supports indexed fines that they have NOTHING to do with safety enforcement....

 

I will be having my cheeseburgers with American or cheddar now. No more Swiss cheese for me. Indexed speeding fines are completely unfair. People understand that regular businesses cant index their products to the customers last tax return but many people accept it for any government operation. Talk about a disincentive to giving an effort in life!

Ross, if you are going to be in Atlanta give me a shout, we have lots of great roads around here that are easy to enjoy.


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