Replicas, why bother ??

I agree 100%

 

Yes. Although this seems too complicated for some post'ers here to understand.

Replica = fake by definition. It's either a Ferrari, or it's something that looks like one but isn't.

Stealing? Depends on the legal circumstances. If someone builds a 458 replica in the garage with his dad, and they sip lemonade, bond and throw a baseball around afterward... yes, it's stealing.

Posing -- yes, any replica is pretending to be something that it isn't.

 

Most of us here got past the age of 12.

 

So you're saying you and your friends are smarter than Mr. Market? Yeah, I too used to think I was smarter than everyone else.

-F

 

I have to ask why it is you want to post here and not on a Fiero or kitcar forum where there would probably be more enthusiasm for the vehicles your interested in. Ferrari became the brand it is because of Enzo, his workers and designers. Oh... And lets not forget the most important, the racers. It is they that made and continue to make Ferraris place in history. Ferrari is why people come here. Kitcars or replicas can and will never have any relevance with Ferrari.

 

The reason the real cars are worth considerably more is not because of the sum of metal, rubber and plastic, but because of their place in automotive history. Especially if we are talking about an old race car.

Many of us car guys are actually interested in automotive history and this DOES matter.

I think a McLaren M6GT would be a cool replica to build. Only 1 original ...
Pete

 

When I see a kitcar I think of a certain movie line, "kids I hope you realize what a waste of time and resources this was".

 

"But he worked really hard".

 

"So do washing machines!".

 

My contribution to this thread is to share my amazement that you've carried this on so long and beat this horse so dead!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjoMQJf5vKI[/ame]

 

You don't like losing, do you? Because that post is lame. Classic picking at straws and coming up empty in a vain attempt at salvaging something.

 

Lol. Overdue.

 

I like F1 and can buy a Ferrari and maybe will some day, but in the meantime and in between time, I like to read about the ownership experience.

Also, if Kitcars have no relevance here, what was the purpose of this thread, or why do some of you care enough, or bother to, deride them?

Don't bother to answer, as it is clear to see that many of you are not serious car guys, just elitists, thinking themselves 'wise', but proving themselves foolish.

 

Who the cap fits -- let them wear it!

 

That's fine, but why does that have to have a negative affect on replicas? Why should the intangible qualities of originals destroy the tangible qualities of replicas.

I'm not saying replicas should be worth as much as originals -- of course they aren't -- I'm saying that it doesn't make any sense to put down replica cars for their lack of intangible qualities.

 

Well, c'mon make your mind up!

 

It all depends.

The original type of drive train is critical to replicate the driving experience IMO, and if that requires the destruction of an original historic car then that is a damn good reason to put down replicas.

If instead somebody builds an accurate(ish) replica but uses common components and the result is not a piece of ***** (with nothing like the original power or chassis balance, or even way too much power, etc.) then I'm cool with that. Often when people build replicas, even kit based they end up with heaps more power than the original ... why?. I've never understood that.

Building kitcars is a lot of fun, but many have little engineering aptitude and should never pick up a spanner IMO. I guess they should also think twice about any vehicle maintenance
Pete

 

Different type of value. Extrinsic vs intrinsic, so to say.

Metal is metal. We assign value to things based on intangible qualities.

It's obvious that an original should be more valuable than a replica based on extrinsic value, and the market reflects that, but it doesn't make an sense to say replicas are worthless or terrible. The intrinsic value is very much there.

 

How can a kit car have any relevance to Ferrari what so ever? I, like the OP, find it strange the lengths people will go to to try to get close to the brand when they could actually own a real Ferrari with the money and time put into building a fake. I would find a 308gt4 restoration infinitely more interesting than someone building an Enzo replica. Actually an Enzo replica would be a train wreck I would have to watch!

 

Because you can get an exact and I mean exact, not Gm powered but an exact copy of a no longer in production car. As Keith points out, these are not inexpensive but are less than an old build.

My Mother would say only a fool would pay 3 mill plus for a car. Some people do it to own a priceless artifact, so i understand the value.

I bother to build a recreation(not a fake) simply because there is no modern equivalent experience and an old bui;ld is priced to the point where enjoying the machine for what it is makes no sense. I am pretty sure that is why the owners of old builds have recreations too.

Now if I can call my Reacreation a ferrari I really could care less. What I am into is how the thing looks and goes, the label is irrlevant. A Lynx is called alynx, anybody who knows cars knows what it is and thinks its great. Same with a great Cobra. As to ferrari recreations, I would much rather have an accepted version than people cutting up good old cars.

 

Replicas are about appearances. Otherwise people wouldn't bother copying authentic Ferrari designs.

Not sure why replica enthusiasts insist on putting down guys who spend $3M on a vintage Ferrari.

 

right, nice dodge. Can't answer the question so attack me, internet troll 101.

 

yes, the value of a replica is only skin deep

 

Viewed from 50+ feet!

 

You don't care if you can't call it a Ferrari because all you care about are looks and performance but seem to be hung up on the fact it is indeed a fake, as in not a real Ferrari. Old builds are not just old builds but the actual real cars. Is calling a fake a recreation some way of making a fake closer to a real Ferrari? Is there some romance or prestige to be gained by calling a fake a recreation. It is a fake Ferrari and will always be a fake or imitation Ferrari. Telling people you have a recreation may sound more impressive and get you closer to that Ferrari provenance that is so desired.