Replicas, why bother ??

I have had a real one and they are not great. Now take a countach body on diablo chassis and you may hove something. The countach was always primitive, apparently the 25 anniversary ones are properly developed, but even a kit car version is not so badly styled

Btw you can get a decent ct for 120 k far less than a good recreation of something might cost.

 

No. Hire a designer and do something original. No sense aping the past.

Jaguar did the C-Type already.

 

Oh I know all about Proteus. Lovely cars. But if I use one of their hand formed aluminum bodies, some of our friends here will still be convinced the only possible reason I did it was to be a poseur and make all the citizens of Mississippi think I have a real C-Type. Because that is the sort if thing that impresses the average Mississippian, let me tell you.

Now, if I could only find a rusty left rear wheel hub and a 5 or 6 inch piece of burnt original chassis tube from an original, and then build a whole new car around that, well then I am most definitely NOT a poseur and should immediately be invited to all of the finest wine and cheese functions.

 

Yeah especially because if you don't have a c type bullfighter won't have to be envious

 

And you car will be worth far more and all those poseur investor owners will want it for their collection. Plus bullfighter will be happy because only a few chosen from up above will have the oppotunity to have one,
I don't think anyone in Mississippi will be any more impressed though. But then if you had a real one they might think you an idiot for spending so much on an old car.

 

Oh great, now were back to the Kit Car Kid sentiments;

Everyone that has a real one is some rich guy poser looking to make a buck.

Fakes with replica bodies and real badges are for real enthusiasts of Ferrari but only if the body is good enough quality to fool the average person.

Rich people are idiots for spending that kind of money on a real Ferrari.

If you don't have enough money and build a replica that is not exact your also a poser. Who are you going to fool with that thing?

No one with half a brain would ever build an original car of their own design, it's too hard and people wouldn't know what is was anyway.

Wallmarts going to start selling cars from china for $500., then we'll show 'em!

Quit calling our cars fakes, they are real pretend.

Ferrari lets Ferrari put shields on their road cars. How do they legally get away with that?

Fake Ferraris are good enough for the blow up dolls I go out with!



How many more posts until it is realized that fake is fake?

 

I'm out. All I want is for people to stop cutting up old cars to make what they think are better old cars. Completely uncool IMO.

If you want that "better old car" use modern components to make that replica and leave the "unloved" old cars to us guys that actually like them.
Pete

 

Not interested in or envious of any fakes. There's nothing special about them.

A C-Type -- yes, that's a legendary machine and a piece of history. I would envy the guy who gets to take one for a drive at Goodwood, Monterey or frankly anywhere.

 

First we have to categorize nice fakes, sentimental fakes, accurate fakes, crappy fakes, possibly legal fakes, good looking fakes, fakes that use authentic parts, fakes that are expensive, fakes that may drive like the real thing, fakes that are better quality than the real thing, fakes that don't fool people because the owner explains them, etc.

It could take several more posts before people realize we just don't need Ferraris.

 

Amen

 

Are you guys still here?

Dale

 

And while we are on the subject of fakes, lest not forget bullshi##ers.

IU am out, said all I wanted to say, cant talk to people who postulate but dont actualy drive hard or even know what it is.
Frankly I like all car people no matter what they drive, cant abide by the concors crowd who dont really drive and try define what and what is not good. Yeah you know who you are.

 

jim built the cars as he was asked by innes Ireland, and lee Holman. jim has SIGNIFICANT history w/ the original gt-40's and needs no excuses made for his tremendous career.

 

Agree with this 100%. I get sad every time I see an old 2+2 destroyed forever to make a "GTO" or whatever. Just make your replica GTO from scratch, because either way, it's still a replica.

 

Here is our problem in a nutshell. The devaluation of a marque & model. When people are confused or deceived at what they are looking at, you potentially have a problem. On a road at speed it doesn't even need correct badging. I quote something I came across on a UK forum recently:

Where replicas are well known to exist for a marque, I have no doubt it has a derogatory effect for real owners, for the market and for the brand equity of the car.

There are plenty of real Countachs around. If the original car is too rare or too poor a vehicle, the answer is simple. Choose another model that does work and is not so rare. God knows, there are plenty to choose from last time I looked.

If you had a real GTO and suddenly GM marketed a cheap lookalike from China and your neighbourhood was suddenly filled with them, how would you feel? If my neighbourhood was suddenly filled with Fieros, I know how I'd feel with my 308 - even if the Fieros were "better", "more reliable" etc.

 

Posting in this thread, why bother ??

 

Ok you have a point somewhat. If you wanna go ahead and pay retail for that Broad Porn Star that's a 10 on looks hey go right ahead.

Ill go find me a girl that's about a 5 or 7 and make her into a 10 with some work and a couple of bucks.

 

Its the same principal. If you wanna sit here and complain about Replicars being fake you should go in your house and get rid of everything that any else out there is likely to own. You can't shop at walmart. You should only purchase One off items from now on.

 

Oh really?

I wonder why you guys get pissed off and start making lame ass statements when someone's cruising around in their home made Replicar. It seems very relevant to the exotic car community to me but more in the way of "I'm jealous!" and its really sad that some of you act like women who are jealous of other women. It's pathetic.

I've talked with some guys out there who own exotics and some are true car guys about it. I'm fine with those guys. Heck even Balboni himself said he doesn't mind when people replicate a Lamborghini.

It's these elitists who act like complete Nazi's that "your not allowed to do whatever you want to your car" That I'm speaking off. Just cause the car isn't 100% original, real some how that discounts the craftsmanship and enthusaism then some how makes them a poser, a hack some kind of a domestic terrorist! they've broken a Sin! Yet a lot of the times these same people who judge replicar owners probably don't mind shopping at Walmart, Watching some porn that involves fake boobs, eating at mc donalds.... Really if your going to bash the Kit car scene please check self first cause you also might be a poser to in some ways or another.

 

Totally Agree. Jim built a series of cars for owners all using Ferrari engines, chassis etc. most of the cars were sourced in the UK and were complete junk/ not worthy of restoration at the time as they were literally just used up old cars ( Ferrari's) Jim then made them into something special, - not trying to pass off as a 250 but back to a car that runs.

He drives his car all the time, and is a true craftsman. He has lots of history with the GT40 program and Alan Mann racing. he would be very welcome by the Factory. he worked on P-4's for Piper etc... so knows whats going on, and knew all about how the orignal cars were made. something that is lost or being lost in todays carbon digital age.

 

Just like the elitists will have their own bag of excuses to.

The Value is perfect for these cars... It's like wearing a fake rolex... You can't replicate tradition even if you can build a better car in your garage than Ferrari did in its factory years ago... Ferrari's aren't made for drag racing....

Maybe I wanna build a 250 GTO Drift car and the Datsun 240 just soooo happens to a great car in that aspect yet I enjoy the look of the Ferrari 250. If I took a real Ferrari 250 GTO and tried to drift it you all would be crapping bricks and crying about it. It would be fun anyways to build a replica 250 GTO. Even if it will run circles around an original. I could probably drive it more often. Sure it won't get several millions of dollars but at least ill be able to enjoy it. Unlike the original that would have to sit in gated up, heated garage and the only time that car would ever see the light of day is at a Concours car show or else I could lose a small part of my investment.

 

Bode's well for me as I've the 2 most unloved FEOHOS's(discounting the 400),bring it on,up's the ante' on my sell price,as has been proven lately(330)

 

If you buy a Ferrari 250 GTO, you can do whatever you want with it. (One was involved in an accident last year, so stuff happens and then you repair it.) People do drive vintage cars.

I don't get the featherduster/car cover mentality.

If you buy an Acme 250 GTO kit, you're right, no one cares if the car goes off a cliff.

 

Went to the gas station in the 360 Spider and a girl at another pumped asked me: is that a real Ferrari?

My reply: It was when I bought it.

Beautiful car, she said.

(BTW have not had this problem with the 458 Spider yet. Yesterday a woman asked me if the car was a Lambo or an Fcar...but apparently she thought it was real. Wanted me to take a picture of her sitting in the driver's seat which I happily did.)

Just wondering: is there such a thing as a Corvette replica?

 

Yeah people drive vintage cars at low speeds or like grandmas! I promise you'll probably never see anyone drive one of those at a track event of any kind. Or even hard on a nice road as it should be.

And if I drove the piss out of it people are still going to cry and complain because "I'm hurting the value" instead of parking it and leaving it alone to apprciate a little like most people who buy these cars seem to.

The problem is some of you people view these cars the same way as a mutual fund account where as I view it as a hobby and for fun. Others I can understand bashing a non stretched Countach or Testarossa is completely exceptable because it looks like crap. But when you've got a replica that looks like this Lamborghini replicas - hand built exotics and your still complaining chances are your just a hater for irrelevant reasons. When see a nicely well built car I don't care if its a kitcar or not its respectable that someone put the time and effort and making it happen.