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How many 308s/328s do we own all together?

Discussion in '308/328' started by don_xvi, Apr 27, 2013.

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I own the following 3x8 (multiple choices allowed)

  1. 208 (all variants)

  2. Dino/308 GT4

  3. 308 2v carbureted

  4. 308i 2v injected

  5. 308 QV

  6. 328

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  1. Ehamilton

    Ehamilton F1 Rookie
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    252 cars, 241 responses. That's eleven more cars than responses, two of which presumably came from including BigTex's three cars with one vote. So do the other nine also represent multiple ownership?
     
  2. GrayTA

    GrayTA F1 World Champ
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    Jun 25, 2006
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    Curious as to who owns more than one.

    I know that BigTex has 3

    Nerofer I think has 2 328s


    Who else is a multiple owner??





    PDG
     
  3. Bradley

    Bradley F1 Rookie

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    Interesting question! Start a poll? :D
     
  4. hanknum

    hanknum Formula 3

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    I'm curious if someone can post the total manufactured of each of these represented models. We could see how many of each of these is represented on Fchat.
     
  5. godabitibi

    godabitibi F1 Veteran

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    Claude Laforest
    Multiple 308 or other Ferrari? I also have a Mondial.
     
  6. don_xvi

    don_xvi F1 Rookie

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    That was the concept, but I certainly haven't followed through with the research. Then, if we followed up with the suggestions others have made about collecting numbers of destroyed cars, we could figure out some real interesting statistics.
     
  7. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    I'll take the plunge; don't shoot at me if the figures are not the same as the ones you have...this is the best of my knowledge, for the 308 GTB/GTS and the 328

    CARBED CARS:
    The total is between 6116 to 6212:
    Glass: somewhere between 712 and 808
    Steel GTBs: 2185
    Steel GTSs: 3219

    to which we must also add 300 2-liters 208 (160 GTB / 140 S)

    2-VALVE INJECTED CARS:
    The total most frequently cited is 2247:
    GTBs: 494
    GTSs: 1743

    QUATTROVALVOLES:
    The total most frequently cited is 3790
    GTBs QV: 748
    GTSs QV: 3042

    To the 2-valves and QV we must add:
    687 Turbos, that is 437 GTB and 250 GTS

    328
    Total is 7412
    1344 GTB
    6068 GTS

    To which we must add 1136 Turbos intercooler, that is 308 GTB and 828 GTS.

    Rgds
     
  8. Bradley

    Bradley F1 Rookie

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    My 2-valve injected GTB is rarer than a 'glass car. . . Therefore more valuable, right? :D :D :D
     
  9. matumorales

    matumorales Formula Junior

    Jun 8, 2011
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    There seems to be a glitch somewhere in the poll's counter; if you add up all the votes, you can count 309 cars, but there are only 298 votes, and if you add up all the percentages you end up with 103.69%, which is impossible.

    What am I missing here?
     
  10. Ehamilton

    Ehamilton F1 Rookie
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    A number of responders own more than one 308.
     
  11. don_xvi

    don_xvi F1 Rookie

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    Pretty cool; from our numbers to date, our community here seems to represent 1.3%-2.2% of production. Figuring on cars lost over the years, we can probably call ourselves 2-3% of the 3x8s out there.
     
  12. DSTP

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  13. colinoz

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    Just added 0.3% to the GT4s.
     
  14. stev4266

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    I would love to know how many Euro GTB QV there are out there. If anybody knows the answer please post it.

    Thanks
     
  15. st@ven

    st@ven F1 Rookie

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    I know I am, owning a '78 gtb, a '83 gts (qv) and a '87 328 gts
     
  16. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    I do indeed have two 328, a GTB and a GTS, both 1989.

    Rgds
     
  17. Robz328

    Robz328 F1 Veteran
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    I own the 828. It looks a bit like the bread van since the engine is soooo big. I can't take pics because of licensing issues. I also forgot to change the fluids in my digital camera.

    :D
     
  18. vonbeeler

    vonbeeler Formula Junior
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    I was the 100th 328.
    Does that make mine more rare:)
     
  19. Testarossa13

    Testarossa13 Formula Junior

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    Just posted mine
     
  20. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Rob,

    You own a 828, or all the 828 GTS Turbos? You would not be joking on me, by any chance?
    Well, the intercooler "turbos" are not that rare indeed, with 1136 cars built. Some have even found their way in the U.K, despite being LHD.

    This is 79425:

    Foskers Ferrari | Ferrari Sales | pre-owned ferrari 208 gts specification

    Rgds...
     
  21. Robz328

    Robz328 F1 Veteran
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    I was joking...I've never heard of an 828...assumed misprint. I have heard of the 208 turbo.
     
  22. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    In fact, to be pedantic, only the cars that have the 308 body and the turbo engine without Intercooler should be called "208 Turbos".

    The cars that have the 328 body and the turbo engine WITH Intercooler should be called simply "Turbos", not "208 Turbos": that designation applies only to the 308-bodied Turbo cars.
    And yes, there were 1136 "Turbos" made in total, that is 308 Berlinettas (GTB) and 828 Spiders (GTS).

    An interesting aside is that:
    - whereas for the normally aspirated-engines, the transition from 308i to QV implied going from two-valve to four valve per cylinder, then from 308 QV to 328 an enlargment of the capacity to 3,2 liter
    - for the family of supercharged cars, the engine stayed the same two valve engine all along: transition from the first generation ("208 turbo" = 308 body) to the second one ("Turbo" = 328 body) only implied addition of the Intercooler, but the engine stayed the same two-valve.
    As far as I can ascertain, there was no such thing as a factory made four-valve supercharged engine in a 308/328 (of course, a distant cousin in the family has a supercharged V8 four valve engine at the time, it is called the 288 GTO...)

    Rgds
     
  23. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

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    A more important pedantic note is that turbocharging is not the same as supercharging ;) Both forced induction but supercharging is done from the engine whilst turbocharging is done from the exhaust.

    Presumably they stuck with the 2 valve because it could better withstand the forces, being more robust and less fragile? ;)
     
  24. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    You right of course, Paul...
    Even if we want to nitpick a bit, this is only a vocabulary "convention", because, if my understanding of the beginning of the following article is correct, strictly speaking "supercharging" applies to any form of forced induction...
    If we want to be completly pedantic, it should therefore be "Turbosupercharging", isn't it?
    (which, if my memory serves me well, was actually used for WWII aircrafts that had indeed a Turbosupercharger, as the P-47 and P-38; the Rolls-Royce "Merlin" having a "blower" driven directly by the engine, be it one stage / one-speed, one stage / two-speeds, two stage / two speeds)

    Supercharger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Rgds
     
  25. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

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    I believe the RR Merlin had a supercharger & I have never heard it called a turbosupercharger (the main original factory is only a few miles from me). I have always heard these devices referred to separately, with the distinction I described. I don't think anybody confuses or conflates the two terms.
     

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