Replicas, why bother ??

Yes there are Corvette replicars, why I don't know, but there are.

 

I do not frown on others opinions and respect them all but if I may add my outlook using the Shelby Cobra as an example. A continuation Shelby Cobra sans engine and transmission is $80K while the most authentic replica is the Factory Five MK4 which is a mere $20K and the only difference between the two is that the FFR MK4 needs a rear end which can be had for a few hundred dollars. I wish I could afford a continuation Shelby Cobra but I cannot but I will eventually be able to afford the FF MK4.

Now I have seen quite a few Cobra's over the years and I bet 100% of them were replica's but that did not take anything away their coolness or getting a thumbs up from me. I recently received Factory Five's brochure package, which is free mind you, and they should be charging atleast $25 for it as it is very high quality. After receiving said brochure package I said screw turbocharging the Miata, screw buying an E34 M5 I'm gonna build a Cobra. My father was a Ford mechanic for 20+yrs and he can help me get the most bang for the buck out of "tweaking" the engine.


Shelby Cobra 289 FIA [w/video] Quick Spin - Autoblog

https://www.factoryfive.com/kits/mk4-roadster/complete-kit/

 

just want to point out that the factory 5 is not the most authentic replica. that title belongs to Kirkham and ERA.

 

Actualy the chassis and suspension on the FFr is completly different to a continuation car.
The body as you know is glass.

But FFR is the most popular cobra as they perform great, are very trackable and less expensive to build. Nothing against FFR but these are cars that have a cobra outline and a ford V8, that is where the similarity ends to an old build or continuation cobra. Cool car though, good luck witht he project, have fun.

Interstingly a SPF cobra is licensed by shelby, its chassis too bears little rersemblence to an original, the body is a close facimile but not exact and is glass, the supension while independant is completly different. Its modernised cobra in that all the componanents benefit from modern understanding and are different. Yet although its only a cobra in outline its licensed.

Now Kirkham cobra is a true nut and bolt copy, if you buy from kirkham its not able to be aclled acobra because shelby has that license, but you can buy the exact same kirkham car from shelby for a lot more and "legaly' put cobra badges on it. Shelby also sells a continuation glass cobra. So there are three licensed by sheby cobras spf, which is in no way original, shelby kirkham which are true nut and bolt, and shelby glass cars, which have the poor cobra suspension and frame with a glass body.

As to glass cobras, the most authentic one I have ever seen is an ERA, and even then thye have wider footboxes and thicker metal in the chassis rails.

To contextualise, an ERa with a new pukka 427 is going to cost 75K, a Kirkham with 427 well over 100K, a shelby continuation galss? A SPF with 351 somewhere around 60K.
An FFr can probably be done for 25-40k not counting your time and depending ont he donor car used.

All cool cars,

 

I do not disagree and yes they are all very cool.

 

I could not agree more (see photo in my post #94 on page 5 of this thread).

 

Dude, are you serious? Sorry, but you are seriously showing a lack of knowledge on this. Tell you what, just for starters, go search YouTube for "goodwood revival" and then get back to us on your statement above.

 

I was gonna say... if you're in San Diego, go to the Coronado Speed Week event in Sept. (Or better yet go up to Monterey in August for the historic races up there.) No replicas, just the real deal, and guys drive the authentic stuff at speeds that will make you queasy.

The "parking it and leaving it alone" mentality mostly applies to late model Ferrari owners, IMHO, who are concerned about their odometers.

 

Hey Jim, I guess kit cars aren't the only one that lose a wheel from time to time.
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I've had an idea I'm going to get a Ferrari 250 GTO and use it to build a replica Nissan 240z.

 

Did. its a fancy event like Barrett Jackson. Most likely sanctioned like a Hot Rod event.

I'm more of a TX2K watcher where anything goes or is possible.

Still I don't see any low mileaged 250 GTO's worth well into the millions being thrashed around...

Besides find me a real Ferrari 512 that launches this hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qxNUHnqck4 Chances are you won't.

Oceanside is Northern San Diego.

Ill check it out if I can.

 

Because not everybody wants to deal with several months of body work cutting out old rusty panels and replacing them with new sheet metal. I can't blame them for doing it. Heck if they would do 1969 Camaro fiberglass repoduction bodies id consider jumping on that.

 

I've seen two real 250 GTO's driven in anger on a track in the last 10 years. They were decidedly not at low speed, one was hitting 140mph ish on the straight and hanging the tail out in the turns. The other wasn't quite as aggressive but both were going fast. Usually if somebody can afford one of these, they can afford to fix it if they break it. Then you have the RL types that just sit there as static displays, which is far worse than a replica imo.

 

Umm, the Corvette is fiberglass...

 

That depends on the year of Corvette. some are made from straight plastic like action figures....

I'm not buying it. I'm sure the man who was driving it was old enough to be my great grand father if not older.....but no excuses. Point is if you wanna go out and spend millions to say "its real" you go ahead and do that.

I'll be eye balling the prices of real Diablo's, 355's for the next 10 years or so and if one pop's up in my price range ill grab it. Meanwhile I'm not fond with paying for the ridculous amount of money to keep it on the road. I have other passions in life besides cars you know...

 

Not sure what the "fanciness" of an event has to do with anything. Your original statement was that people "only drive vintage cars at low speeds or like grandmas". I can't say that I have ever noticed grandmas or anyone else doing stuff like this at a Barrett Jackson auction:

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Not US events pictured.
Also I think those pics pretty welle xplain how when you buy a historic car you are really buying arecreation with historic data plate.

The last few vintage events I wnet to at LRP it was pretty clear that the more expensive the car the slower it went. When you see a 50's alfa smoking a 250 GTo its pretty clear that one driver is going all out and the other is more than cruising but being careful.

Go with a great rationaly priced recreation and dirve the wheels off, keep the histirc old build for posterity, its better this way for the drive and the spectators..

 

Had a guy with his 7 yo daughter come over to the car.

He said: that is a beautiful car. It's not a kit car is it?

My reply: No. It's a REAL Ferrari.

 

Now you're just being silly. I could say, "Show me a real Ferrari which gets gas mileage as good as my Fiat Grand Punto. Chances are you won't".

The car in your video looks (and performs) about as much like a Ferrari as my Fiat looks (and performs) like a Maserati. Historic note: Giugiaro designed my Fiat and the Maserati 3200GT, but that doesn't make my Fiat a Maserati.

I wonder if you might be missing the point of this thread.

 

Here is an excellent video of a fancy pants grandma driving a Ferrari 250 at an embarrassingly slow rate of speed. Don't even get me started on how un-hard she launches. Probably just left a Barrett Jackson auction.

All kidding aside, some pretty good in-car footage, and epic sound.

Fast forward to the 6:30 mark to get past the warm up lap and to the actual race.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbBevDHJP14[/ame]

 

I just popped into this thread to see how much of the horse's carcass was left, and I see Fchat is now using this thread to keep the trolls fed. Cool.

BUT I GOT TO WATCH THAT IN CAR VIDEO! Thank you for that!

 

While parking my 458 Spider in front of a store, a man holding his young daughter's hand walked by and asked: that's not a kit car is it?

Reply: no. It's a real Ferrari.

 

Precisely. I filled my 308 today and the garage owner asked if it was a replica. Replicas taint the market, damage the brand equity and they should all be crushed, unless made or authorised by the factory. Regardless of value or historical significance.

 

So you are upset because he could not tell the difference between your 458 and a kit car, or because you may not have received the credit for being able to afford a real 458? The car should be for you not for the street credit. But that is just me.

 

+1. What if next time they ask you if it's a corvette?