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No TV Crews in the pits for the rest of the season

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  1. Jimi900

    Jimi900 Formula Junior

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    Will Buxton (@willbuxton)

    7/10/13, 11:54 AM
    Sad news... TV crews now banned from pitlane for ALL sessions. Going to make our job very tough. Hungary will be interesting.


    Thanks, Red Bull

    Jim
     
  2. TifosiUSA

    TifosiUSA F1 Veteran

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    The pussification of F1 continues. Typical knee-jerk reaction to an incident. Now they'll probably never be allowed in the pits again.
     
  3. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Good. Now maybe we can do away with pitstops altogether. After all, weren't those shots of cars in the pits supposed to make F1 more "exciting" for the masses?

    Otherwise, I agree that it's a totally stupid knee-jerk reaction from the world champions of knee-jerking.
     
  4. E60 M5

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    Agreed, how silly, better move the stands back another 200' while there at it, you know, just in case.
     
  5. TifosiUSA

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    Hopefully a wheel doesn't hit a fan, then they'd ban spectators! :D
     
  6. william

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    I support the motion!
     
  7. 2003Enzo

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    What a stupid thing to do.
     
  8. sindo308qv

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    Let's go ahead and make the cars fully electric and put the last nail in the coffin.
     
  9. Deiger

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    What if the drivers just used the F1 game on Xbox and fans could join in on the race. Plus it would definitely give those smaller teams a big drop in costs. Plus we could do testing all week long.

    Deiger
     
  10. SonomaRik

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    If it hit Bernie, there would then be no [rotten managed] F1 ... way to miss him RBull
     
  11. tifosi12

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    #11 tifosi12, Jul 10, 2013
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    + a gazillion

    Happened in Imola in 1994 as well but was completely ignored by the truly tragic events that followed.


    Makes me cringe at the thought what they would do next time a driver gets a head injury or an accident will be caused by the exposed tires. I'm guessing this would be the new look of F1 at which point it ceases to exist:
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  12. BartonWorkman

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  13. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The facts are that:

    - commentators can broadcast without being in the pit lane. They each have a press booth, and access to the pits .

    - camera crew don't need to be in the pit lane to show us photos. Never heard of static remote control cameras?
     
  14. 4rePhill

    4rePhill F1 Veteran

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    It's not all bad news!

    At least now we should get to see an entire overtaking manoeuvre from start to finish rather than cutting away to see the overtaking drivers pit-crew or girlfriend mid-overtake!

    The number of times during races I end up screaming at the TV: "For crying out loud!........Let's see the cars on track!........Not the bloody girlfriends!"
     
  15. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Hmm, really?

    To me the best part of the 2008 championship was Nicole in the McLaren garage in São Paulo in the last lap ;)
     
  16. Wolfgang5150

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    Honestly can't believe this hasn't happened sooner. There are way too many in the pits at any time. (15 f-ing people to change 4 tires and misc adjustments? Easy area for cost control, but I digress)
    TV coverage of the pits can easily be accomplished by overhead cameras/pit wall etc...

    'Pussification of f1'; you've got to be kidding...how about 'time to move forward with new technology'....some of you are hysterical....
     
  17. VIZSLA

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    Some of the overhead remote shots are the best. Too much effecting the outcome of the race happens in the pits. There needs to be some live coverage.
    But I do suspect that they're jumping on this incident in order to do what they've wanted to do for a while.
     
  18. 4rePhill

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    I was still busy swearing at Timo Glock at that time! (Never to be forgiven Glock! - NEVER!).

    As for: Nicole "notice Me!........notice Me!" Shirtlifter (or however you pronounce her surname!), she was the worst of the lot!

    The slightest thing with Lewis on track and bang! - close up of Nicole! - What for? - she's nothing to do with F1!

    Now the cameras are going to be banned from the pitlane, Lewis stands no chance of getting back together with her!:

    "Sorry Lewis!, I really care about you but there's just not enough exposure of Me in F1 any more to make this relationship work!"




    (Lewis! - you may not believe Me now, but you really are better off without her!)
     
  19. tifosi12

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    Thanks for playing :p
     
  20. tatcat

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    just outfit the pit crew with helmet cams
     
  21. ApexOversteer

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    I bet BBC and Sky are already making arrangements for cams mounted all over the place, not just pit crew helmets...

    Ted Kravitz must be gutted...
     
  22. ELP_JC

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    It's going to make HIS job very though... as in hard not to make it disappear.

    You mean her made-up surname, right? Her real one is CALIENTE. And yes, she's an 'attention whore' indeed.
     
  23. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1

    Not the crews though - They *must* stay in their garages until needed. It's the random cameramen (shooting hotties rather than paying attention?), inexperienced reporters and "PR people" that are the issue IMO.

    +1 I'm also not sure our man Will is being entirely honest here; I've been away all day, but the last I read was they'd be restricted to broadcasting from the pitwall. Which is pretty well defined and has plenty of space for 'em. Keeps 'em (mostly) out of harms way.

    +1 The BBC's "cable cam" comes to mind.

    +1 Hell yeah!.... I'm certain said coverage will remain. What they don't want is some random dude, who's not paying attention getting killed. I'm sorry guys, but if there's an F1 car about to exit it's box within 20-30ft (?) of me, I'm paying attention! No disrespect, certainly wish the guy all the best. I guess he was doing his job (was he wielding a camera?) just looking the wrong way at the time.

    I've said many times, often to those who want to abolish pit lane speed limits, until you've been there you don't realize how dodgy it can be. TBH, I think it's almost a miracle we don't lose one or two every season.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  24. BartonWorkman

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    Seriously though, working media in the pits has become such an ordeal now that
    it's hardly worth it.

    Each year in ALMS, for example, the media/photographer access to the hot pits is only
    done if the photographer has a restricted credential that has to be shared with two other
    photographers (and) they must wear a full fire suit complete with helmet The joke
    now is that working media will need full body armour to gain access to the hot pits,
    such is the way things are going.

    The pits are dangerous enough as it is. It's hot, cramped and the prospect of getting
    in the way or ruining someone's race is very real. Journalists and camera men must
    have their heads on a swivel at all times and, as we saw last weekend, even then
    it's no guarantee of not getting in the way of a flying tire or the prospect of other events.

    This does not come as a surprise at all really. The paranoia of race organizers in pit
    lanes (regardless of series) the past few years is not to be believed. The rules change
    from race to race. I've personally witnessed photographers attacked by pit marshals
    for not standing 1' behind an invisible line, threatened with long handled flash lights and
    expulsion or arrest should they not comply.

    At Sebring in 2006, an hour before the race even started, I was attacked by a pit marshall
    for walking along the pit lane on my way out to photograph on the grid. While spectators
    wearing shorts, girls in short skirts and open toe shoes, etc. were allowed to walk around
    the pit lane freely, I (wearing my photo bib and full fire suit) was singled out, shoved up
    against the pit wall for no evident reason and asked "Don't you know the rules?".

    Since I'd been walking that pit lane since the age of five, I responded "yes". This threw
    the pit marshall into a rage, he shoved me up against the pit wall, bruising my leg as he
    grabbed and pulled my photo bib off and stormed away. I got it back again but the incident
    really ruined what was otherwise a pretty good day.

    As stated, for TV the host broadcaster may just as easily place robotic cameras throughout
    the pit lane. Pit reporters need not be standing right in the pit lane as most of them are
    merely looking at the closed circuit TVs to do their reporting anyway.

    Look back at F-1 broadcasts from the 80's and 90's when there were no pit lane speed limits,
    cars would come flying in at breakneck speeds and the pits were full of dozens of non-essential
    personnel. Some thought this was perfectly acceptable at the time but looking
    at it now, it was a recipe for disaster.

    BHW
     
  25. tifosi12

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    Really?

    Why would she give up such a beautiful and fitting name for some butt ugly fake German name? If true whoever advised her played a cruel joke on her.
     

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