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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Streetrod, Jul 22, 2013.

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  1. Streetrod

    Streetrod Karting

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    #1 Streetrod, Jul 22, 2013
    Ferrari Cars for Sale ? Showrooms ? JD Classics

    Ok guys, bit of an odd one here. I phoned up JD Classics today to get a bit of information on the two 275 GTB/4 they have for sale. I asked for the chassis numbers so that I could do a background check but the lady who answered refused to give them too me saying it was not company policy to give such info.

    When I asked how I was supposed to check history she replied "sorry, that was just the way it is"

    Ok I said could you then give me an indication on price? And here was the shocker; apparently the silver gray car is up for £1.55m and the red car for £1.7m. After I picked myself off the floor I asked "are you sure?" she checked again and confirmed the price. And these are steel cars not alloy, I checked.

    So my questions are, does anyone know these cars ID and have I totally missed a massive hike in 275 values is the last few weeks?

    As the 250 SWB spider, to be honest I was afraid to ask any question about that, I'm not sure my heart could take anymore
     
  2. barchetta

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    #2 barchetta, Jul 22, 2013
    Don't know what it looks like in person, but based on the photographs alone, the example in Grigio Ferro Metallizzato is stunning. Wonder if that was the original exterior color?
     
  3. PAUL BABER

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    #3 PAUL BABER, Jul 22, 2013
    Call again and ask to speak with Bob Jewers.......He will tell you.
     
  4. Onebugatti

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    #4 Onebugatti, Jul 22, 2013
    They are quite good guys, highly creditable .

    Send them your bankers name, so they know you are creditable on a level to buy the cars. As always, hard to share chassis numbers with people they are not certain about.....new world, new rules...

    They had a fab Lanica B24S at Goodwood, and speaking to them, they are quite serious..saw them also at Monaco last year, and there Jag was prepared sweet...


    Good luck. CG
     
  5. mdsaxon

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    #5 mdsaxon, Jul 22, 2013
    2491 gt????
     
  6. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    #6 Timmmmmmmmmmy, Jul 22, 2013
    1527GT ? - 2491GT is the arutunoff Zagato Spider made out of a 250 GT SWB. 1527GT is as far as I know the car just finished being restored in the UK, originally aluminium and refitted with aluminium panels. Would be US$ 10 million easily.
     
  7. Terra

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    #7 Terra, Jul 22, 2013
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    I think you meant to say 1627 GT.

    In any case, the car pictured on the JD Classics website is an SWB Spider California (i.e. thus ruling out 1627 GT as a possibility, etc.).
     
  8. miurasv

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    #8 miurasv, Jul 22, 2013
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    I believe the red 275 GTB/4 is s/n 09755? It's claimed to have done under 50,000 km. Copley Motor Cars in the US sold it last year.

    I don't know the chassis number of the Grigio car. If it's the car I think it is it was originally Rosso Cordoba and has a new Classiche engine block. The original became porous. It sounds like a very nice car but call JD Classics to confirm the above information.
     
  9. EdwardLovett

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    #9 EdwardLovett, Jul 23, 2013
    The Rosso GTB/4 is Ex Bill Cosby - 9755 - went from dealer to Copley then to Dick Lovett then onto JD.

    The Grigio GTB/4 was sold recently from Nigel Jeffery Cars to JD. Re Stamped Motor
     
  10. PAUL BABER

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    #10 PAUL BABER, Jul 23, 2013
    Who in their right mind is going to pay that price for a car with a re stamped engine ??? This market is crazy at the moment and if / when it resumes some normality it will be cars such as this that will be impossible to sell.
     
  11. odgemeister

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    #11 odgemeister, Jul 23, 2013
  12. Atombender

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    #12 Atombender, Jul 23, 2013
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    In a world where cars with well-known restamped engines get Ferrari Classiche certified, everything is possible.

    My other peeve is people who are trying to pick up any of those certified cars, only to sell them shortly afterwards, have the nerve to call themselves collectors. They probably don't even know how to pronounce Scaglietti.

    The SWB Cali, could it be 1951GT? When it was shown at the Techno in 2010, it was still a construction site (German owner). Black/Red would be a recognizable combo, which makes me believe that some work has been done recently.
     
  13. Streetrod

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    #13 Streetrod, Jul 23, 2013
    My thoughts exactly Paul which was why I was so stunned with the prices quoted. I am going to call them again this afternoon just to make sure that the lady on the phone had not mis-quoted me.

    At the end of the day who is driving these prices, is it dealers chancing their arms or are people really willing to pay what appears to me to be £500k over what has been paid recently for similar 275/4 GTB's?
     
  14. EdwardLovett

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    #14 EdwardLovett, Jul 23, 2013
    There is no doubt that the 4 Cam market is at £1.5m give or take £150k for condition and history etc. What is a shame is that even with the facilities available at JD they aren't restoring the ex Cosby car to its original colour combo.
     
  15. odgemeister

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    #15 odgemeister, Jul 23, 2013
    What would you say the SWB Spider market was at? Chris Evans paid £5m five years ago.
     
  16. EdwardLovett

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    #16 EdwardLovett, Jul 23, 2013
    $12m
     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    #17 Marcel Massini, Jul 23, 2013
    09755:
    Original exterior color: Verde Scuro 20-G-186 (dark green).
    Original interior color: Arancia VM 3104 (orange).

    Marcel Massini
     
  18. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #18 Marcel Massini, Jul 23, 2013
    NOT 1951 GT.

    Marcel Massini
     

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