Drove my first F1 Tranny-- I need to be educated

I don't think it matters. I think Auto just tells the TCU when to shift and does not cause it to shift more slowly.

Sport mode does engage the clutch more quickly.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/373907-f1-auto-mode-question.html

It depends on the TCU and your driving habits, but that is a pretty good starting point.

There is some debate on this. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430/367383-proper-way-drive-f1-transmission.html

If you stay in first while stopped with your foot off the break it will eventually shift to neutral.

Yes

 

No. Auto mode simply decides when to shift instead of the driver making that decision. Clutch wear is not affected by F1 auto mode in spite of the wonderfully ignorant internet myth to the contrary.

Somewhere between 5K and 50K miles depending on (1) original installation and current adjustment of the clutch and (2) driver technique at launch from stopped. Also keep in mind that those clutch wear percentages from the computer are a vague approximation at best, and can be wildly inaccurate at worst.

Makes no difference with the F1 since the clutch is withdrawn when stopped whether in gear or not. Being stopped in neutral is really more of a safety issue since you risk having to fiddle with the brake & paddles to get in gear and get moving in case of emergency.

 

Not much to add, the answer are spot on. I would also add that the 80% number may or may not have anything to do with reality. It is possible to change the initial thickness setting with an SD (I think that is the correct one) and if it has been changed since installation all bets are off.

I get the joy in driving a 6-speed but the F1 is a lot of fun too. After you drive it a while you will find that you get into your other car and you are reaching for the paddles. DARN!

 

So idling in neutral, the clutch is disengaged? Like a clutch peddle being pushed down while your stopped and in neutral? I'd like some more input on that one.

 

Yes

15k miles +/- 15k mikes

Don't need to with F1

Yes

 

That is exactly correct. On the F1 the throw-out bearing is full contact so it is always touching and spinning. With foot on brake the clutch is depressed, no matter if you are in N or 1st. With it in N and your foot off the brake the throw-out is still touching and spinning, it just has a minimal lateral load on the bearing.

 

Maybe, maybe not. I had my clutch done at 25K because everything was already apart for other issues but it wasn't ready yet. I know of several F1 clutches that have gone 40K-50K miles and there are a lot that have only gotten 10K. It all comes down to how you launch.

 

I am also new to F1 and appreciate all the comments. So I have been launching as if I was driving my 3 pedal Ferrari and hope that is the way but please correct me if I am wrong. I release the brake pedal and apply gently pressure on the throttle pedal until the car is rolling and then progressively apply more throttle. Please share the proper technique for us new F1 drivers. Thanks!

 

You have to admit this thread subject was interesting/

"Drove my first F1 Tranny...."

It begs the question, How'd "It" Drive. hehe... sorry i'll see myself out.

 

Iam sure you will get different answers but I was told to NOT ease out of first gear but NOT to floor it either,lol.....I was told easing out of first is akin to riding the clutch. If I have traffic in front of me I let the car ahead move out a little so I can give my car some good throttle in first. Hope that helps.

 

348's are 5 speed manuals, not 6

 

Agreed - more throttle than you would really want to use to come off the line -> get full clutch engagement -> back off a bit so you don't rocket into the car in front of you. Saves riding the clutch off the light a little.

 

That is a good one lol

It certainly does help, at least until someone else posts an opposing response

 

My advice is to stay away from F1 Trannies. You don't need that kind of education.
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If I could have bought a Stradale with 3 pedals I would have

 

This is the common wisdom but it really depends on how your clutch is set up. I ease my car off very gently, then slightly back off the throttle so the clutch fully engages. From there I am all go. This gets me full engagement within a car length and I have virtually no wear. I can also do it with liberal use of throttle but it has to be pretty hard on it. I find if I hit the throttle like you would an automatic I get burning clutch smell.

 

I could see that as well. Net - you can basically feel the clutch engagement and that's what your after vs. it feeling like your *****-footing off the line. I never smell my clutch, but have definitely smelled the brakes on aggressive deceleration

FWIW I had a new clutch put in at 17k miles and am at 24k and have used ~15% according to the snap reading (which I know can be somewhat relative...but still). That's including a super aggressive launch while on GoldRush that I won't be doing again (I simply had to try launch mode in the Scud ). At that rate, I probably have another 25-30k miles on it before I need a new clutch. And while I love 6-speed cars, the transmission is really one of the highlights of the car IMO...I may get another Gallardo with a gated shifter in it for nostalgia sake, but for me it's hard to beat the package they put together in the Scuderia.

 

LMAO!

I find it interesting the salesman didn't know. Like how can you be selling a Ferrari and not find every excuse to drive it and figure out everything about it??? I'd be like "oh, we need paperclips at the dealership, I'll go get them".....

oh, and I don't really know any answers to the OP's question. I've only driven on F1 and loved it way more than I expected. I didn't have any problems with anything but maybe it's because the owner of the car was carefully showing me how to drive it...and holding on trying not to **** his pants.

 

So regarding driving the F1 which I'm getting more used to, I found it can be very smooth if I mimic the manual shifting behavior -- when upshifting, the instant that I pull on the paddle, I lift my foot off the gas slightly.

What I observed is that the clutch shifts/clicks in to the next gear and there's no jerkiness or anything like that associated with the shifting...

Any thoughts/feedback?

 

Owners manual states "Do not lift for up or downshift".....

 

In the Gallardo it was necessary to lift slightly using the Marelli robotic clutch in order to get 'normal' feeling shifts. In the Scuderia - I find no such need. I don't know about the system in the 430, but the Scud F1 is brilliant (despite the possibility of actuator or pump failure)

 

I'm also still getting used to it and noticed the same positive result as you with the steps you described.

 

I don't see how this makes sense...let's think what is actually happening in the car.

When up shifting, the speed of the car is somewhat 'constant' during the 200 ms or so required for the shift; given the fact that you're going to a different gear ratio, the speed of the engine needs to drop to match the car velocity.

So what effectively you're doing is basically just letting the RPM drop very slightly by lifting off the gas a little; then the clutch catches the engine RPM in the required band when it engages the next gear. To me this was very smooth and timed right you can accelerate almost as hard but without any jerking motion.

When down shifting, the same theory holds like when double clutching, except that in this case I think that the computer double clutches for you as the down shifts are quite smooth with linear or constant pedal modulation.

Of course this is only my theory and it could be proven completely wrong by the fact that the computer drops RPM when up-shifting even at WOT but my actual experience in the car was that I can remove a little of the jerkiness if I just back off the gas a little. Keep in mind this is *a little*, not completely off the gas.