328 Production Number Breakdown

Do you have any information about when your car was built?

Also do you have holes in the door panels for the emergency manual window winders?

 

Elentinos,

I browsed through the serial numbers lists yesterday evening, and I haven't found any earlier "B" than 56211 (positive identification of which is still pending).

As for GTBs during the early production of 328s, there are actually very, very few cars in the 58xxx range and 59xxx range: the early production was almost only GTSs.

For GTBs, there is your car, 58735.
Then 59399,
Then 59779, which Matthias Urban book lists as a GTB, BUT with a VIN written "ZFFWA20B"; as "20" is the code for the GTS, there could be a doubt about this car.
The next one I have is 60203, then 60683; after the 608xx range, Bs production start to take off.

I really wish I could have a chat with the owner of the car posted above, which could be "56211"; it would be nice to know what the factory documentation he has says about "328 prototypes".
If his car is the "number 3 prototype", there are at least two others. Maybe the cabriolet ( 49543 ) accounts for one...
Interesting!

 

No it doesn't have emergency holes in the doorpanels. Also I don't have any information about the time the car was build, the only thing that didn't come with the car was the warrenty book... I tried to get some information from the Ferrari factory (classiche) but they don't answer my questions. I am considering to invest in a Ferrari Classich Certification in the future but I'm not in a hurry. I bought the car to drive in it and I am certanly not selling the car in the near future.

@Norefer: thanks for the information. If I discover something on low VIN 328's I will post it on Fchat.

 

Thank you.

Very interesting because 59381 has the holes for emergency window cranks. I was wondering if all the very early cars had them.

 

The entry is related to a very, very clear picture of the VIN. I can confirm that a VIN plate for ZFFWA19B0058211 exists!

Furthermore, I have -what may be a shame- seen the first assembly number stamping on a 328 last week at Spa: ass. # 1071 belongs to VIN ZFFWA20B000068695. The assembly number on a 328 is to be found nearly in the same position as on the 308, but it is not stamped on top of the frame, but on the the frame's inner side and it is upside down. See example attached, it's the red oblong you see.

Wouldn't it be charming to try to identify as many assys as possible on the 328? We did it here on F-Chat with the 308 already, a long time ago.
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PS: the similar 308-thread is to be found here:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/technical-q/61994-308-assembly-sequence-numbers.html?highlight=paint+flap

 

My 81085, with an April 5th, 1989 build date (engine #17330), a 328 GTB, has the number "89" stamped here, so it should be read as "68".

Rgds

 

Well, what do you know. I never noticed that number on my car. My 328 has the number stamped in at the same location as a 308.
My car has VIN 58735 and the number says 1. How cool is that!
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Been trying to follow this thread from time to time but a bit confusing, my QV is # 54403, so your saying that your car is the very first 328 ever built? Very cool indeed!

 

Well, also this number is yet to be interpreted. So I still do not state that my 328 is the first one build. Too much Italian loose ends... I guess we will never know.

 

Would be interesting to know who has the last 328 also and where it resides.

 

The ass. # 1 fits very well, Erwin, my db states #58735 to be the official first 328 GTB being built! Interessting to see that the ass. #-stamping moved with the time of production.

Matthias

 

That's not less interessting: 68695 is much "younger" than your car but shows a much higher ass. # with #1071.

Matthias

 

Yes Matthias, but according to her VIN, 68695 is a GTS...and we have 6068 GTS to 1344 GTB.

Nevertheless, that doesn't explain such a low assembly number for my 81085, if consecutive for all euro LHD GTBs it should be at about 1000 or so!
(My guess is that there is a consecutive serie for Euro LHD GTBs, another one for US Market GTBs, and another one for all RHD GTBs?)
but adding a "10" before 68, it would then be 1068, and that would look about right! (81085 could very well be the 1068th euro GTB assembled, bracketed by chassis n°)

And did they change the number serie for the "serie 2" cars, or not?

I'll have a look at the assembly n° of my GTS, 80515, as soon as possible.
Interesting topic, isn't it?

Rgds.

 

What is well known is that the last 328 produced is a GTS, chassis n° 83136; this is admitted by most sources.
it is a swiss market car, Rosso Corsa on Beige leather.

The last 328 GTB built is said to be 83017.

Rgds

 

Well heres mine:

RHD GTS 81321

Number is 187

 

Ah! somewhat consistent with the "68" on my 81085. I feel in good company. Thanks Andy, it helps...

Rgds

 

...Except of course that yours being RHD and GTS, it is sequenced in the RHD / GTS series.

We have discussed the production numbers very often in the past, and I recall 542 RHD GTS for the UK and 152 for Australia (I don't know how many others for others RHD markets?).

With a late chassis number, that 187 seems as out of sequence that the "68" of my 81085 in its own range...

Something missing here...the plot thickens...

Rgds

 

I'm pretty confident I have identified 95% of the US GTB production. It's in the US GTB Registry thread. I haven't added up the numbers.

-F

 

Ah, good to read you here, Furmano!

THEORETICALLY, and if my understanding is correct...
It would be logical for those cars to be identified by their own consecutive list of assembly numbers; that is, a list unique to their type, "North American market GTBs", running from n° "1" to n° "135" (or whatever the total of US GTBs is...)
So, by asking each owner to send you the assy n° of his car, it would be very easy for you to see if there are still some cars missing from the list...
Easy, no? Well...most probably too good to be true!

Rgds

 

GTB with S/N 67595 has ass. # 290. A "S"-model, being delivered to Switzerland when new

Matthias

 

Very interesting. I'll look into that. Thanks for the tip.

I own #67033, a US GTB delivered to NY State when new.

-F

 

I looked for an assembly number on the rear frame of my US 1987 328 GTB (67033) and found a '2' stamped to the side. I think that number refers to the fact that my car was the second US 328 GTB built for the '87 MY.

I used to think my car was the first 328 GTB from the '87 MY imported into the US. However, a while back I received a bunch of US 328 GTB serial numbers from Brain Crall and one of those was from a car that preceded mine (66801), which lines up with the fact that my car has a '2' stamped on the frame.

So, what does this mean? I think it means, the US 328 GTB cars have an assembly number stamped on them but that the numbers reset with each MY. Those assembly numbers can be used to make sure the cars we have in the Registry are in the correct sequence.

So, all you US 328 GTB owners go out to the garage, look on the side of the left rear frame member, look for a number (the one on my car was upside down so it read right side up), and get back to me.

-F

 

Left rear in front of coolant tank in a spot that is lighter color than the rest of the frame I have either an upside down 6 or a 9 stamped on 86 GTB # 61177

 

For the record, my 88 GTB (77338) has an "assembly number" of 4.